BASKET-LATE: High cardiac death and MI rates in DES-treated patients fuel late stent thrombosis debate
Atlanta, GA - Using a drug-eluting stent (DES) in 100 patients may avert five target vessel revascularizations (TVRs), but at the price of three late deaths/MIs related to increased late thrombosis, a new analysis suggests. Outside experts caution that the study, while provocative, was too small to be definitive.
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Dr Matthias E Pfisterer
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Presenting results of the Basel Stent Cost-effectiveness TrialLate Thrombotic Events (BASKET-LATE) during a late-breaking clinical-trials session here at the American College of Cardiology 2006 Scientific Sessions, Dr Matthias E Pfisterer (University Hospital Basel, Switzerland) acknowledged that his study was underpowered to detect major differences in thrombosis-related events. Still, he insisted, the indisputably increased thrombosis risk with drug-eluting stents warrants new strategies to prevent late thrombosis.
In the short term, Pfisterer told heartwire, longer dual antiplatelet therapy might be the best temporary solution. In the long term, new stents with bioabsorbable platforms or polymers may solve the late thrombosis problem. Testing for clopidogrel resistance may also help avert stent thrombosis related to drug resistance, he added.
A lethal trade-off
Debate over the true risk of late thrombosis continues to dog drug-eluting stents. As Pfisterer noted in his presentation, delayed endothelialization following stent implantation is the proposed mechanism behind the widely acknowledged increased risk of late thrombosis with DES, although the actual real-world thrombosis rate is hotly disputed.
As Dr William O'Neill observed following Pfisterer's presentation, "The real question that clinicians are going to have is: are you really trading late restenosis, which is not a health hazard, for death or reinfarction? That's obviously a very important and worrisome trade-off."
The real question that clinicians are going to have is, are you really trading late restenosis, which is not a health hazard, for death or reinfarction? That's obviously a very important and worrisome trade-off.
As previously reported by heartwire, the original BASKET trial enrolled a relatively complex patient group and randomized them to a bare-metal stent, a paclitaxel-eluting stent, or a sirolimus-eluting stent. For BASKET-LATE, Pfisterer and colleagues followed the 746 patients who were MACE free at six months (when the main BASKET cost-effectiveness trial had concluded and clopidogrel was stopped) for an additional 12 months. The aim of BASKET-LATE was to define the incidence of clinical events related to stent thrombosisand the timing of these eventsin patients treated with either a bare-metal stent or a DES. For the purposes of the analysis, sirolimus- and paclitaxel-eluting stent-treated patients were combined in a single group, late stent thrombosis was defined as at least six months after PCI, and "thrombosis-related events" encompassed angiographically confirmed stent thrombosis, sudden cardiac death, or a target vessel MI.
BASKET-LATE results
Somewhat to the surprise of his audience here today, Pfisterer showed that while MACE rates were no different between bare-metal-stent or DES-treated patients, rates of nonfatal MI and cardiac death/nonfatal MI were actually significantly higher in DES-treated patients. By contrast, and as expected, target vessel revascularization was higher in the bare-metal-stent group, although when only restenosis-related TVR was included, this difference was not statistically significant.
Major cardiac events between 7 and 18 months
Outcome
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Cardiac death
| 0
| 1.2
| 0.09
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Nonfatal MI
| 1.3
| 4.1
| 0.04
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Cardiac death/nonfatal MI
| 1.3
| 4.9
| 0.01
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Restenosis-related TVR
| 6.7
| 4.5
| 0.21
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MACE
| 7.9
| 9.3
| 0.53
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When event rates for cardiac death/MI as well as rates of TVR were plotted over the full 18 months after stent implantation, the curves for TVR rates for DES vs bare-metal stents separated at approximately four months, in keeping with observations from the major DES trials (p=0.02). For cardiac death/MI, however, the curves for bare-metal stents and DES were more or less superimposable until approximately eight months, at which time event rates for bare-metal stents appear to plateau, while the rate for DES continue to climb (p=0.06). Timing of thrombotic events appeared to be evenly distributed across the 12 months after clopidogrel discontinuation.
While the stent thrombosis rate was not statistically different between the DES- and bare-metal-stent-treated patients, in absolute numbers, angiographically documented late stent thromboses were twice as high in DES-treated patients, while thrombosis-related clinical events were nearly three times as high. In multivariate analyses, the most important predictors of late cardiac death/MI were prior MI, initial need for GP IIb/III inhibitors (reflecting troponin-positive ACS patients, more complex lesions, or suboptimal revascularization) and DES use, Pfisterer said.
"With currently recommended antiplatelet therapies, one has to balance in real-world DES use the benefit of lower TVR rates with the cost of an increased rate of late cardiac death/MI," Pfisterer concluded. He estimated this cost/benefit to be 3.3 late death/MIs for every five TVRs avoided per 100 patients receiving a DES.
Asked why his findings appeared to depart so dramatically from pivotal trial results, Pfisterer emphasized that BASKET-LATE reflected a much higher-risk-patient cohort, of whom almost 60% were unstable-angina or STEMI patients.
More studies needed
Discussing the results following the presentation, Dr E Murat Tuzcu (Cleveland Clinic, OH) charged Pfisterer of overstating his findings.
"You have not shown a statistically significant difference in late stent thrombosis and thrombosis-related events [between the DES and bare-metal-stent groups], but you make sweeping conclusions in that regard. Moreover, some of the presentation and outcome of late events could be influenced by their definitions as 'thrombosis-related events,' which were not statistically different between the two groups. So do you really think you can make those kind of sweeping conclusions? This is strikingly different from what we have seen in other studies."
Tuzcu also questioned whether nonfatal myocardial infarction at 200 to 300 days after cessation of clopidogrel treatment could "confidently" be attributed to lack of dual antiplatelet therapy.
This is strikingly different from what we have seen in other studies.
In response, Pfisterer acknowledged that the major limitation of his study was that it was not powered to look for infrequent events. "In fact, if you wanted to do a study to look at these small differences, you would need a study with tens of thousands of patients, and such a study will most likely never be performed," Pfisterer said. "But we had the unique possibility to look at this phenomenon in our patient group, and in this sense, it is a valuable study. Yes, you can criticize the conclusions for being a little bit stretched, but it's what these data would suggest."
Commenting on the study for heartwire, Dr William Gray (Columbia University, New York, NY) said that the results were intriguing but pointed out that in many centers, physicians are already prescribing clopidogrel for one year.
"The data are interesting," Gray stated. "Late-stent-thrombosis rate is important, and if you looked retrospectively across all the trials with follow-up out to two years, the data are probably there, but it's probably not as profound as this. We're probably going to have to do something larger than this, and probably with longer-duration clopidogrel."
The clopidogrel requirement, however, raises a host of other issues, including clopidogrel resistance and drug cost. In some cases, patients may not be able to afford long-term clopidogrel therapy, and the potential increased risk of late thrombosis following drug-eluting-stent implantation may negate the benefits of drug-eluting stents if patients stop their clopidogrel early.
"The cost of clopidogrel is not insignificant," Gray acknowledged. "It is a problem for some patients who we treat and it can influence our clinical decision-making as to what kind of stents we implant. In some cases, a bare-metal stent may be the better option."
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March 19, 2006 09:38 (EST)
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Metaanalysis needed! As this study is relatively small, the results are certainly not stable enough to allow final conclusions. And moreover: since patient population definition, case history, antithrombotic treatment and more other factors matter, there should be more analysis effort to put this study into bigger context.
What I see is that we might need a metaanalysis with a data basis including the previous studies on DES of different types. This way may be laborious and full of obstacles, but it should be done. AND: it should be done on a patient=case-related level, and not on statistically condensed figures. This would need the collaboration of the many investigators of past studies.
I am convinced that this might be the only feasible way to clear our picture on DES use and risk/benefit considerations.
It will be for benefit of the patients!
Regards
Anton
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April 13, 2006 08:29 (EDT)
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Take a history Two evenings ago on call, I received a phone call from a wife of a patient who had been admitted in my absence for ACS and referred for non STEMI PCI. The conversation went like this:
"Dr., we told them he was scheduled for a kidney procedure in two weeks for severe kidney stone pain. Why did they put in a 'drug stent'?"
Good question. Similarly, another patient of mine recieved a CYPHER stent when his presenting complaint with ACS was sweats and anorexia in face of severe lymphadenopathy , undiagnosed. Since he was obviously facing a biopsy, possible chemo, etc., I requested verbally and in writing for this patient to NOT RECEIVE a DES. Yet, magically, the CYPHER just jumped off the shelf and into this gentleman's LAD.
WE MUST TAKE A MEDICAL HISTORY ON ALL PATIENTS BEFORE IMPLANTING. Let's take time out to remember that even though we might not have a life outside of the cath lab, our patients do.
Melissa |
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April 13, 2006 12:50 (EDT)
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Late stent thrombosis following antiplatelet withdrawal while fasting during holy months. Late stent thrombosis is indeed a problem. We all have had cases and all have experienced fatal complications associated with late thrombosis. This is particularly true when patients withdraw antiplatelelets during fasting in holy months. We have to take special care in these patients and clearly explain them not to stop any of their medication during fasting, particularly the dual antiplatelets!
Bhargava B, Karthikeyan G, Yadav R, Naik N, Sharma G. Late stent thrombosis following antiplatelet withdrawal while fasting during holy months.Indian Heart J. 2004 Nov-Dec;56(6):685. |
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April 14, 2006 08:17 (EDT)
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stents Melissa is right on! We need to really pay attention and not I repeat not put a drug coated stent in people awaiting procedures.
Stent thrombosis is more serious than restenosis and we need to talk to and think think think! Put a bare metal in and let them have their surgery. Restenosis doesn't kill people! |
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April 15, 2006 12:17 (EDT)
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Lymphadenopahty biopsy???? Not that I defend the use of a DES in the setting you described, however it is exactly this type of rhetoric ie. unnecessarily stopping anti-PLT therapy in the face of a lymph node biopsy that leads to patients experiencing SAT. Seems a little overkill. |
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April 15, 2006 07:56 (EDT)
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Why not call Roto-rooter? Espinoza,
It's not the stopping of anti-platelet therapy for a lymph node biopsy-, which we wouldn't do anyway, it's the "what if he has lymphoma of the gut wall and starts to bleed in the next few weeks", it's the "what if he has to take bone marrow suppressing chemotherapy next month with complete bonemarrow suppression and what few platelets he has , if any, can't work now". It's the "I told them I'm having surgery in the next couple of weeks for a very symptomatic gall bladder problem" and comes in with an amylase of 2000, all on Plavix with a fresh TAXUS." Lovely, and we're seeing more and more of this stuff every day.
This isn't rhetoric, it's just application of common sense .
I'm 45 years old and was in fellowship training "back in the day" of balloon angioplasty only. A patient in our practice received one of the first bare metal stents in this region and we fought the 50% restenosis rates early on. So, we've been there, done that And, I never want to go back there. I am just as in love with a DES as you are. Heck, if I had a high grade LAD lesion, I'd belly up to the DES bar anyday, UNLESS, I had a planned sigmoid colon resection next week for a recent bout of severe diverticulitis or some other semi-urgent surgery. We've gotta reign in the cave man mentality of "see blocked vessel, stent blocked vessel".
The gentleman we just sent home this week on tons of narcotics to deal with his kidney stone pain for the next 18 months would give anything to replace his CYPHER with a bare metal stent today, I'll guarantee it.
We need to throw some govenors on this situation and engage in the practice of medicine, otherwise, we could have been just as satisfied with a plumbing license. I insist that overall, as physicians we ARE better than that and our patients deserve better as well.
Melissa
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April 15, 2006 04:20 (EDT)
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props To use ebonics..props to Melissa!
The surgeons' cavalier attitude from everything from stopping coumadin abruptly to stopping plavix for the "oh so important surgery" should step back and get our opinion. We need to help them and help our patients. We need to implant bare metal stents in those waiting for surgery. The surgeons don't think, patients don't know...it's our job as thinking and knowledgeable practitioners to really "advocate" for our patients; I don't mean in the politically correct way but in the way that you would want your mother treated if she had cad and was awaiting surgery.
Peace out!(I just watched the Usher movie!) |
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April 15, 2006 06:25 (EDT)
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Thanks guys for your posts Thanks Mike . Glad you got to see a movie. Watching Derailed tonight". Had to run back out to the hospital and pull up a nuclear and was hoping no one would recognize me as I had just finished mowing the yard and I was a bit...uh scarry looking. (Hubby had surgery 2 weeks ago so I was yard woman!). I still have a gazillion echos and Holters to read, but since no one had placed them in the "if you don't read this now they are going to die pile", I just put them aside until tonight. Hope I got those vitamin D levels up today!
Thanks to Espinoza for voicing your opinion, albeit, I think we see things a bit differently. I think it's healthy to debate these issues as it keeps us trying to examine all the angles.
Have a great rest of the weekend guys!
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April 16, 2006 02:03 (EDT)
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Why not call Roto-rooter? You seem to have a disproportionately high number of pts with these problems, while I won’t question your management I don’t know of any indication for 18 months of Plavix use under any circumstance, so your pt with tons of narcotic Rx probably is dealing with them.
We do "Take a history" despite your belief, and while I don’t defend the physician who used a DES, u should have stopped the physician from putting any stent let alone DES for anorexia and sweating are not presenting signs of ACS as you very well know
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April 16, 2006 07:18 (EDT)
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If you cant supply 12 months Plavix should you be implanting DES? It is reassuring that the issues we face here are the same all over the world.
I have a disclaimer: I am not an angioplaster but an EP.
I have 2 questions for the group:
1) if my health system cannot afford 12 months of clopidogrel for our DES patients what are the benefits for them; are we just exchanging early restonsis for early thrombosis?
2) I recall R Virmani and some elegant histological studies of the ill-fated radiation treatment for in-stent restenosis, she has similar data on DES 2-4 years predating BASKET-LATE, are we failing to learn the same mistakes all over again?
Richard Hillock
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April 16, 2006 11:03 (EDT)
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plavix forever To address some issues..yes we need plavix at least 2 years! There is data that shows sat at that time albeit rare and from the "I just saw one" category I had a pt that stopped the plavix at 1.5 yrs and had an sat in the lad ! So I try to continue plavix indefinitely.
And no, Melissa doesn't seem to have any more issues than than the rest of us.
I face these issues just as frequently and as with all technologies we need to accept the "good with the bad" and recognize
that with the des are some problems.
Overall they are more good than bad
but nothing is perfect.
Melissa, derailed was a good
"double take" movie as things weren't quite what they seemed...sort of like
all the "good news' with des! |
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April 16, 2006 05:39 (EDT)
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More commentary on the Plavix Nation Mike, I agree. In the words of Sir William Osler: "A good physician treats the disease. A great physician treats the patient who has the disease".
Raj, I think you misunderstood my patient's presentation. He had obvious unstable angina that began as exertional pain then rest pain. He presented with negative U waves=ischemia in the anterior leads. He also complained of sweats and weight loss with obvious lymphadenopathy, then CXR with significant mediastinal nodes as well. Then I cath'd him with high grade LAD disease. As another reference to Sir Osler , I'm afraid he wouldn't be very happy with this patient who had two diagnoses concurrently.
Richard, you make an excellent point. Compliance and affordability are becoming even more of an issue than the "what if's" of whether a person will "have to" stop Plavix. Again, it pays the physician to take a history up front so the patient won't have to pay later.
Melissa
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April 16, 2006 06:36 (EDT)
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Long term antiplatelet therapy. Recently a patient with anemia of unknown cause undewent DES to the CFX to return a few weeks later, admitted by the surgeon for colon cancer resection! The surgeon had asked the patient to stop the Plavix-ASA 7 days before. Alas! the poor guy died of acute stent thrombosis just after surgery. The implanting physician should have recognized the consequences of committing someone to long term antiplatelet therapy in the face of undiagnosed anemia!!
On occasion, I use cutting balloon to help the patient get by until after work-up and/or unrelated therapy and repeat non-invasive testing for possible reintervention weeks to months later. Agree, we interventionalists should be physicians first, technicians last!! |
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April 19, 2006 01:19 (EDT)
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Room for improvement Sounds like all here need to surround themselves with professionals who not only communicate better but respect the advice given to them ahead of time. That is where your focus should be not blasting clopidogrel and DES technology. |
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April 19, 2006 03:23 (EDT)
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I think you missed the point entirely Espinoza,
with all due respect, none of us are "blasting DES technology". I respect and appreciate the great strides we've made in this arena. But you must be living in the stone age if you don't recognize that there are problems that have arisen from DES utilization in inappropriate settings. If you just don't recognize that inappropriate settings exist for DES utilization, you must be counted as one of "them". Furthermore, this technolgy is still young and we are still learning from it.
As far as blasting clopedigrel, the only thing I'll blast about that drug is the price. It's so cost prohibitive that it drives natural selection for stent re-stenosis (effectively forcing us into the bare metal market when we know folks can't afford long term clopedigrel for DES).
Appreciate your loyalty however, to a fault.
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April 19, 2006 04:28 (EDT)
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no need for DESn every patient I am interventional fellow in Canada and our group uses DES in about 40% of cases, despite the fact that nobody prevent the physician to implant DES in every patient if he thinks that will be of benefit. I really think that tere is no need in DES in non-diabetic patient with reference diameter >3 mm, unless the lesion is very long. We should always keep in mind the trade-off restenosis/thrombosis. |
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April 19, 2006 06:00 (EDT)
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Espinoza has a point... Actually, Melissa, I think you missed the point. Espinoza seems to be saying that if your interventional colleagues are neglecting what they've been asked to do (i.e, not use a DES in certain cases) or are remiss in taking a good history (to know that the patient is scheduled for important non-cardiac surgery), then maybe the problem is the interventionalists themselves. As an interventional community, there is often a high degree of technical skill but I'm afraid that in some circumstances this is at the expense of being a complete physician.
I also agree that DES are important and valuable technology, but we need to continue to make informed decisions about when to use them. |
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April 19, 2006 11:09 (EDT)
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Your point is well taken David,
This seems to be a universal problem. We utilize a number of technically excellent interventionalists and despite that, I think it's something that we are all dealing with more and more frequently. The cause is two fold 1. ever increasing popularity of DES and 2. increasing duration of Clopedigrel. Therefore, we are impacting more patients and thus more opportunity to confound the treatment of a greater number of co-morbidities.
And to think, Our greatest anticoagulation hassle used to be when we would have to admit a poor EF with MVR to stop Coumadin for a procedure. Those were the good old days.
Appreciate your post.
Melissa |
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April 23, 2006 12:52 (EDT)
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That is the problem isn't it... You non-invasivists are always so hell bent on trying to tell interventionalists how to do our job you forget the number of idiotic cases we are referred becuase you sent a patient for a stress test they didn't need, that you can't interpret because you have to take a whole course on attenuation correction because the technology is so flawed. With that said, I cath at least ten patients a week for false positive stress tests. And the other ten come over with little or no reason why they are their for a procedure. And oh by the way they are anemic with renal impairment and a chonic cough that you didn't evalute or remember to tell us why we should or should not be cathing or stenting the patient at all. Remeber we don't send our patients for cath procedures, generally others do.
So to a fault....yes, the referring cardiologist is usually the culprit. |
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April 23, 2006 08:23 (EDT)
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Purge...... Espinoza,
Just let it all out man!!! I can tell you've been holding this in for a long time. It's refreshing isn't it? I know you can't say this stuff to your referral base, but you really need to find a way to help them do better screening, better referrals, etc. Are you in a University setting or something?. I am referred the raw patient, usually without stress yet, or if stressed, I or my partners have read it so I can council the patient to make up their minds and encourage them in whatever I think their decision should be regarding cath. I'd like to never do another normal cath again. Your job must be very frustrating.
By the way, I'm not a "non-invasivist". I've cath'd thousands of patients. I haven't cath'd ten normal patients per week since I left my fellowship in the university setting 15 years ago. 10 normals per week is what we all cut our teeth on but it should not be on -going in the outpatient setting. Also, sounds like someone needs to be using some stress echo if they have ongoing attentuation difficulties.
Don't let your anger and resentment toward your situation discourage you. Hang in there. We all have our aggravations in life. Mine lately have been those patients coming back with DES when a bare metal stent should have been considered. Dealing with their GI bleeding, chemo needs, pancreatitis is as frustrating to me as 10 normal per week is for you.
* Maybe your group could do a lunch for your referral folks or something and casually mention you are doing too many normal caths and make some recommendations. Sounds like some education could go a long way.I remember doing a dinner meeting once for our staff on how to make referrals for stress testing or cath. It seems to be very well received.
We really should do this more often. I feel better already.
Melissa
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April 24, 2006 11:30 (EDT)
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lol...wrong again First, I am in private practice....second I say the same things to all who don't adequately take the time to asses patients. The answer to most patients problems is not in the cath lab. With that said you must be one of those individuals who loves to hear themself speak alot.....or read what they write over and over again. Please try to shorten and focus your run on sentences. That aside, I actually love my practice and what I do but thanks for your insinuations. Getting back to the issues at hand....since you have cathed thousands of patients....just focus on what it is that you do and do well with your patients and stop trying to change the world....it is usually out of reach. All the best in your endeavors. |
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April 25, 2006 08:26 (EDT)
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NEVER! Espinoza,
Suggesting that we should all, (including myself,) be certain to take a good general medical history before we choose our stents was the shot heard round the world? What a terrible suggestion!!!
Hate to bring this up, but an opportunity for more run on sentences:
Yet another patient came into our office yesterday that I had cath'd and sent for stenting September of 2005. He did not reveal to us that he was having bright red blood per rectum for months. There is a place to check that on the intake exam, yet he did not tell us. Now, we have a 7 month old Cypher and rectal bleeding. I performed a CT for ongoing chest pain after I recath'd him with an open stent and normal chest x ray. Now he has a lung mass, probably a met. Wish I had pressed him more about his review of systems so we could at least have a less complicated situation now with his plavix.
Trying to change the world to be a better place is never a bad thing, but first we must start with our own. It's important that we all learn from each others experiences and mistakes. The day I stop trying to make life better for all patients is the day I stop practicing cardiology all together.
Good Luck to you and your patients as well! and Thanks so much for your posts on the forum.
Melissa |
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April 25, 2006 11:21 (EDT)
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Relentless....I love it. It has truly been a pleasure, Melissa. You are a worthy opponent. I will concede at this juncture. We should meet up at TCT and continue the healthy dialogue. |
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April 25, 2006 01:55 (EDT)
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My pleasure as well. Thanks! Espinoza,
My pleasure as well. I love a person with conviction!!!
Please stop by the heart.org booth at any of your next meetings!! and thanks again for your participation.
Melissa |
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