Chicago, IL - A new study of
pioglitazone (Actos, Takeda Pharmaceuticals) suggests that it can prevent progression of atherosclerosis and produce meaningful improvements in cardiovascular risk factors over 18 months, as compared with
glimepiride (Amaryl, Sanofi-Aventis) [
1]. Experts say results of the
Pioglitazone Effect on Regression of Intravascular Sonographic Coronary Obstruction Prospective Evaluation (PERISCOPE) trial, presented here at the
American College of Cardiology 2008 Scientific Sessions, raise new questions about how best to lower blood sugar levels in type 2 diabetics.
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Dr Steven Nissen
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Dr Steven Nissen (Cleveland Clinic, OH), who presented the results during a late-breaking trial session here, called the results a "huge surprise."
"What we saw was that the people who got one of the most widely used therapiesglimepiride, a sulfonylureahad unequivocal progression of coronary atherosclerosis by [intravascular ultrasound] IVUS, while pioglitazone had a little less plaque at the end of the study, and the difference between the two therapies was highly statistically significant. . . . To our knowledge, this is first time that a diabetes study has been shown to slow progression of coronary atherosclerosis."
Nissen emphasized that while no one study should change clinical practice, particularly one based on a surrogate end pointin this case, atherosclerosis progression as measured by IVUS. The trial did not address impact on clinical events. But Nissen also pointed out that the PERISCOPE results come in the wake of PROACTIVE, which showed a nonsignificant 10% reduction in its primary end point of all macrovascular events and a significant 16% reduction in its secondary end point of death, MI, and stroke with pioglitazone. "I think the totality of information suggests this is a beneficial therapy, but PERISCOPE alone doesn't answer all the questions," he said.
But commenting on the study for heartwire, Dr Roger Blumenthal (John Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD) warned against making too much of a small imaging study on top of a larger clinical trial that failed to meet its primary end point. "We need more supportive data. Right now the totality of evidence is not enough to change guidelines," he said. "The chance of this having a significant impact on clinical practice is the same as a snowball's chance in Hades."
The PERISCOPE results have also been published online March 31, 2008 in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
All eyes on PERISCOPE
In PERISCOPE, 543 patients with type 2 diabetes underwent coronary IVUS and then were randomized to receive either glimepiride (1-4 mg) or pioglitazone (15-45 mg) for 18 months, at which time IVUS studies were repeated. According to study investigators, mean percent atheroma volume decreased by 0.16% in pioglitazone-treated subjects but increased by 0.73% in glimepiride-treated patients. When the analysis was repeated to include patients who had not completed the study, the results also showed an increase for glimepiride and a decrease for pioglitazone. Both agents lowered glycohemoglobin and fasting insulin levels, although pioglitazone's effects on these end points were statistically greater. Pioglitazone also produced statistically meaningful changes in HDL and triglyceride levels.
PERISCOPE: Change from baseline
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Atherosclerosis (%)
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+0.73
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.002
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Fasting insulin (µU/mL)
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1.33
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<0.001
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2.3
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0.1
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0.03
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Diastolic blood pressure (mm Hg)
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0.9
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-0.9
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0.003
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HBA1c (%)
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-0.36
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-0.55
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0.03
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Fasting blood glucose
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0.41
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0.003
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Triglycerides
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3.3
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HDL (mg/dL)
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0.9
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LDL (mg/dL)
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1.1
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2.1
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.69
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CRP (mg/L)
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-0.4
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-1.0
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<0.001
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Adverse events in the trial were clearly different between the two drugs. More patients taking glimepiride developed hypoglycemia and angina, while patients taking pioglitazone were more likely to develop edema, gain weight, or suffer bone fractures.
Commenting on the study, Dr Salim Yusuf (McMaster University, Hamilton, ON) highlighted the fracture results, which occurred in 3% of the pioglitazone-treated patients.
"This was a significant excess in fractures with pioglitazone, and no matter how good a surrogate end point, even if it is truly related to the outcome you're interested in, which may be CV events, it doesn't tell you the totality of the benefit/risk," he said.
Likewise, Dr Darren McGuire (UT Southwestern, Dallas, TX), speaking with heartwire, also acknowledged that the fracture rate was "surprisingly high"higher than the signal of fracture risk seen before with this drug.
"I think it is something to pay attention to," he said. "These drugs are not completely benign, but in total their benefit-to-risk ratio in select patients remains favorable."
Indeed, McGuire points out that PERISCOPE is not a standalone imaging study, because of the promising secondary results in PROACTIVE. "What the PERISCOPE study does is provide proof of principle that the drug is to some degree modifying atherosclerosis."
Several observers have pointed out that the absolute changes in atherosclerosis progression are small, a comment Nissen rejects. He cites research in progress at his own institution that is examining clinical outcomes in relation to IVUS results from statin trials. "I can tell you that, with a p value with a lot of zeros before the one, that changes of around 0.8% to 1.0% are associated with a very substantial reduction in hard end points across all the trials we've done. The differences we saw here are really very statistically robust and they will translate into clinical benefits," he said.
Indeed, an editorial [2] by Drs P Gabriel Steg (Centre Hospitalier Bichat-Claude Bernard, Paris, France) and Michel Marre (Universite Paris VII, France) points out that, while small, the apparent affect of pioglitazone is "well within the range of what is achieved with some therapies demonstrated to improve cardiovascular outcomes, such as high-dose statins."
A glimpse of things to come
Following Nissen's presentation, one of the session moderators, Dr Greg Brown (University of Washington, Seattle), asked Nissen if the PERISCOPE results have "changed [his] opinion about the glitazone class," referring to the 2007 hullabaloo over rosiglitazone, sparked in large part by a meta-analysis that Nissen coauthored.
Nissen called this a "fair question" but emphasized that, while technically in the same class, rosiglitazone and pioglitazone affect different genes. "They both affect a gene that is involved in lowering blood sugar, but they have otherwise extraordinarily different effects. We have to study each of these compounds individually."
In the press conference, Nissen acknowledged that he and his coauthors cannot yet explain the mechanism by which pioglitazone alters atherosclerosis progression but that its effects on blood pressure, lipids, triglycerides, and CRP are major candidates. "What this study now tells us is: we must do a comparator effectiveness trial looking at different diabetes treatment strategies. We can't just focus on pricking the finger, getting the blood sugar down, and saying, that's the goal of therapy. The goal in therapy is to prevent complications of diabetes, and the most feared, most serious complication is heart disease, which will kill 75% of diabetics."
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Nissen SE, Nicholls SJ, Wolski K, et al. Comparison of pioglitazone vs glimepiride on progression of coronary atherosclerosis in patients with type 2 diabetes. JAMA 2008; DOI:10.1001/jama.299.13.1561. Available at: http://www.jama.com.
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Steg PG, Marre M. Does PERISCOPE provide a new perspective on diabetic treatment? JAMA 2008; 299:1603-1604.
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March 31, 2008 11:52 (EDT)
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"Huge surprise"...... not Troglitazone showed stabilization of vasospastic angina a decade ago in a small group of patients in Japan a decade ago. Here we are a decade later with little understanding of the TZD coronary benefit.
The 18 month 462 patient Chicago Cimt study last fall showed differential changes that Enhance would have gladly embraced, along with trend toward coronary benefit with 8 coronary revascularizations in the glimepiride group vs 3 with pio.
Interestingly no specifics were given in the number of adverse cardiovascular events in the Periscope trial except that angina was reduced.
The 3% incidence of fractures is high. It would be interesting to see what the time distribution of these fractures are. It would seem unlikely that metabolic bone disease would be occuring in the short framework of this study, particularly if the fractures were distributed throughout the study. I would suspect dysequilibrium or vertigo (causing falls, perhaps related to volume expansion), may be a contributing factor. Just my opinion as a primary care internist. |
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April 1, 2008 12:32 (EDT)
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All eyes are on...huge surprise Steven,
Great points, no big surprise when you look at chicago and proactive and now periscope.
Tzd's have shown restenosis reductions post pci in dm and nondm pts.
The question is?? do they do this through hscrp antiinflammation, HDL elevation, TG reduction, adiponectin changes, Ppar gene changes or all of the above including glucose regulation and insulin sensitization. Will Rosi show the same in it's vascular studies?
My understanding is that there were 8 fractures 6 in women and 2 in men early in the study. None of them involved hip or spine and all had a trauma history (um uncertain what this would mean). They did not measure bone markers because when the study was designed the signal of TZD fracture had not been noted. Bone markers studies are now underway.
My questions would be: do tzd's affect vit d absoprtion or metablism? calcium? estrogen? other? equilibrium interesting, hypotension?
Case in point about fractures and observations: I had been taking rosiglitazone for my prediabetic condition off label - my dad who has had a 5v cabg but no chf is on avandamet because he has early DM2 and AVM came out before actos/met. We have not changed this as he has been stable and didn't have increased events in the first 6 months as Dr. N would suggest in 'his analysis'. Back to me: I changed my avandia to welchol as it now has lipid and glucose indications and I thought I would kill two birds with one stone as it were - ironically a couple months after stopping my avandia - I stuck my hand in the snow blower - yes had turned the auger off but the central auger was still rotating. I have not shared this with my patients as they would never trust my judgement again - i know this forum will be much kinder (ha ha) broke two fingers on the left hand and perhaps if I had still been on avandia one would have related it to the drug. No, I don't think tzd's make one dumber - it was just a really stupid act on my part, two weeks prior I had thought just this thing would happen and had used the broom handle to clean out the blower. It has been a long snow season in Salt Lake but I digress...
I thought the hypoglycemia 37% vs. Pio 15% was impressive, the edema 11% vs. 18% no surprise the angina reports 12% vs. 7% with pio also impressive.
It would be interesting to see Pio approved for atherosclerosis regression or stopping progression. |
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April 1, 2008 06:52 (EDT)
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"No, I don't think tzd's make one dumber" or dizzier, or blonder?
My profound sympathy and best wishes for full recovery, Michael.
Thanks for the expanded data from periscope.
RE fx's, off the top, early occurence of upper extremity fracture suggests falls perhaps related to vestibular dysfunction which would begin perhaps with the volume expansion in the first few months of Tzd use or with uptitration. I only cite this because vertigo was recurrent in a few of my patients with Tzd rechallenge. Greater diuretic use for Tzd related edema, could also predispose to orthostatic related falls particularly in those with autonomic dysfunction. How many of us check standing BP routinely? |
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April 1, 2008 07:18 (EDT)
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great points vestibular or orthostasis from vasodilation, etc.. I wonder if any studies have noted higher fx rate on hypertension care vs not or on ccb's etc... |
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April 2, 2008 03:26 (EDT)
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hctz would confound the fx rate with variable effects on fx's, by enhancing bone density (improved renal calcium reabsorption) and favorable vestibular effects, but increasing orthostatic hypotension. |
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April 7, 2008 09:41 (EDT)
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PIO and ER Niacin,... Interesting abstract from a couple yaers back,..
>80% increase in HDL,.. impressive.
Similar effects in real world setting,..
Only 500 mg ER Niacin plus,.. I believe,.. 30 mg PIO. Great combo in the insulin-resistant patient.
Benefits on pattern B, low HDL2, trigs,.. and Lp(a) reduction as a bonus,..
Only 1/2 gram of ER-NA. |
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April 7, 2008 09:50 (EDT)
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not just that, but... If you're an elderly woman or man, you get to a three-fold increase in hip fracture and CHF too!! |
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April 7, 2008 11:24 (EDT)
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good points Dan If you can't diagnose osteopenia/osteoporosis and don't treat it regularly, IF you cant diagnose CHF or at least look for it and treat it.
You have no business using these agents.
If nothing else I hope it creates awareness that LVH, SHF, DHF and Osteop are very common in this population and this age group.
Some awareness is important. mc |
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April 8, 2008 10:20 (EDT)
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the over 65's In our resource-constrained system, it would be impossible to order an echo and BMD scan on everyone at risk of fracture or CHF in whom we are starting TZDs. Physical exam and history have limited utility for detected occult CHF and osteoporosis/osteopenia. That is how patients at risk for CHF got into the TZD studies in the first place (otherwise they would have been excluded). |
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April 8, 2008 05:21 (EDT)
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PIO and ER Niacin,... Interesting abstract from a couple yaers back,..
>80% increase in HDL,.. impressive.
Similar effects in real world setting,..
Only 500 mg ER Niacin plus,.. I believe,.. 30 mg PIO. Great combo in the insulin-resistant patient.
Benefits on pattern B, low HDL2, trigs,.. and Lp(a) reduction as a bonus,..
Only 1/2 gram of ER-NA. |
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April 9, 2008 12:35 (EDT)
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Hi, D. Hackam I guess we are polar on TZDs.
I would be surprised that TZDs might cause metabolic osteoporotic fx in the first year of therapy. The only fx I can recall in my patients on TZD was a hip with orthostatic fall. If the fx rate is related to bone metabolism, just running the wrist density on Periscope patients might give that answer. My patients on 11 years of TZD rx seem to have healthy bone, or at least no increase in fxs, I do not run routine BD on men even if they are on TZDs.
I thought Periscope showed only edema, not CHF. My thinking is CHF is caused by DM not PIO which increases blood volume, which is managable. If diabetic CHF is related to excess trigliceride accumulation in the myocardium as shown in recent MR spectroscopy, Pio might be one of the remedies (in conjunction with managing the chronic volume overload).
One of our patients went down today in our parking lot with hypoglycemia (on noninsulin sensitizing rx) Fortunately, the car he was driving had stopped moving.
Michael cited incidence of hypoglycemia in Periscope with SU was 37% vs 15% with PIO. I suspect PIO induced hypoglycemia is milder and more in the pattern of reactive hypoglycemia and less likely to lead to MVA or hospital admission. I think daytime MVAs secondary to SU are under reported and often not recognized. This represents a greater risk to the patient and public than TZD side effects. Just my opinion. |
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April 9, 2008 08:01 (EDT)
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I don't think the issue has been completely examined Steve,
The studies that look at CHF/edema are not very well done with these compounds. To really understand that issue, trial design would have to examin (1) EF (2) valvular pathology (3) diastolic function (4) baseline BNP levels before and after institution (5) radiograph (6) physical (7) daily weights . Ankle edema and fluid retention are VERY common causes for cardiology consultation on these medications. In the normal EF pt. with no significant valvular pathology, it's usually nothing more than peripheral edema but in the patient with low EF struggling with CHF, I'm seeing difficulties in fluid management and shortness of air.
To really understand the issue, these medications would have to be delivered to a number of low EF patients with class 3 and 4 heart failure . When I look at these studies and see commentary on CHF or not, the baseline characteristics of these patients are a mixed population of normal and Low EF patients. Thus the incidence of true CHF is likely diluted out. If the above study has been done anywhere, I'm not aware of it and would be happy to reveiw it.
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April 9, 2008 09:24 (EDT)
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a year or less is sufficient to produce clinically important bone loss J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2007 Apr;92(4):1305-10. Epub 2007 Jan 30.
The peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma agonist rosiglitazone decreases bone formation and bone mineral density in healthy postmenopausal women: a randomized, controlled trial.Grey A, Bolland M, Gamble G, Wattie D, Horne A, Davidson J, Reid IR.
Department of Medicine, University of Auckland, and LabPlus, Auckland City Hospital, New Zealand. a.grey@auckland.ac.nz
CONTEXT: Thiazolidinediones, which are peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma agonists, are widely prescribed to patients with disorders characterized by insulin resistance. Preclinical studies suggest that peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma signaling negatively regulates bone formation and bone density. Human data on the skeletal effects of thiazolidinediones are currently available only from observational studies. OBJECTIVE: The objective of the study was to determine whether rosiglitazone, a thiazolidinedione, inhibits bone formation. DESIGN: The study was a 14-wk randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. SETTING: The study was conducted in the general community. PATIENTS: Fifty healthy, postmenopausal women participated in the study. INTERVENTION: Intervention was rosiglitazone 8 mg/d. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The primary end point was biochemical markers of bone formation, and secondary end points were a bone resorption marker and bone mineral density. RESULTS: The osteoblast markers procollagen type I N-terminal propeptide and osteocalcin declined by 13% (P<0.005 vs. placebo) and 10% (P=0.04 vs. placebo), respectively, in the rosiglitazone group. These changes were evident by 4 wk and persisted for the duration of the study. There was no change in the serum beta-C-terminal telopeptide of type I collagen, a marker of bone resorption (P=0.9 vs. placebo). Total hip bone density fell in the rosiglitazone group (mean change from baseline rosiglitazone -1.9%, placebo -0.2%; between-group difference 1.7%, 95% confidence interval 0.6-2.7, P<0.01); lumbar spine bone density fell significantly from baseline values in the rosiglitazone group (P=0.02 vs. baseline) but was not significantly different between groups (mean change from baseline rosiglitazone -1.2%, placebo -0.2%; between-group difference 1.0%, 95% confidence interval -0.2-2.3, P=0.13). CONCLUSIONS: Short-term therapy with rosiglitazone exerts detrimental skeletal effects by inhibiting bone formation. Skeletal end points should be included in future long-term studies of thiazolidinedione use.
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April 9, 2008 09:26 (EDT)
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skeletal toxicity
LETTER
Skeletal Toxicity of Thiazolidinediones
Andrew B. Grey, MD
1 April 2008 | Volume 148 Issue 7 | Page 563
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TO THE EDITOR:
Patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus are at increased risk for fracture compared with their euglycemic peers (1). In their review of the comparative safety of oral therapies for type 2 diabetes mellitus, Bolen and colleagues (2) refer to evidence from the ADOPT (A Diabetes Outcome Progression Trial) study that fracture incidence increased by about 2-fold in women with type 2 diabetes mellitus taking rosiglitazone compared with those taking either glyburide or metformin. An increased fracture risk in women has also been reported from a preliminary analysis of an ongoing rosiglitazone trial (3) and from a pooled analysis (4) of randomized trials comparing pioglitazone with either placebo or active comparators. The likely mechanism of thiazolidinedione-induced skeletal fragility is inhibition of bone formation by peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-–mediated diversion of mesenchymal progenitor cells into the adipocyte lineage at the expense of osteoblastogenesis (1, 5). Clinicians should be mindful of this additional adverse effect of thiazolidinedione therapy when prescribing oral hypoglycemic therapy, particularly to older women. Skeletal end points should also be evaluated in prospective, comparative studies of oral therapies in type 2 diabetes mellitus.
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1. Grey A. Skeletal consequences of thiazolidinedione therapy. Osteoporos Int. 2008;19:129-37.[Medline]
2. Bolen S, Feldman L, Vassy J, Wilson L, Yeh HC, Marinopoulos S, et al. Systematic review: comparative effectiveness and safety of oral medications for type 2 diabetes mellitus. Ann Intern Med. 2007;147:386-99. [PMID: 17638715].[Abstract/Free Full Text]
3. Letter from Alexander R. Corbitz (GlaxoSmithKline) to health care providers, February 2007. Re: Clinical Trial Observation of an Increased Incidence of Fractures in Female Patients Who Received Long-Term Treatment with Avandia® (rosiglitazone maleate) Tablets for Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus. Accessed at on 13 February 2008.
4. Letter from Robert Spanheimer, MD (Taneka Pharmaceuticals North America), to health care providers, March 2007. Re: Observation of an Increased Incidence of Fractures in Female Patients Who Received Long-Term Treatment with ACTOS® (pioglitazone HCl) Tablets for Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus. Accessed at on 13 February 2008.
5. Grey A, Bolland M, Gamble G, Wattie D, Horne A, Davidson J, et al. The peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma agonist rosiglitazone decreases bone formation and bone mineral density in healthy postmenopausal women: a randomized, controlled trial. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2007;92:1305-10. [PMID: 17264176].[Abstract/Free Full Text]
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April 9, 2008 09:34 (EDT)
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PERISCOPE: 3% rate of fracture vs 0%, at 18 months, NNH=33 Surely a 3% rate of fracture at 1.5 years, with an NNH of 33, in a highly selected clinical trial population is important. Particularly since many elderly diabetics go on glitazones ... I can just see the health costs spiralling! |
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April 9, 2008 10:46 (EDT)
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TZD/CHF I agree Melissa, limited studies. The fact that mortality was not increased in the data we do have, suggests volume overload rather than myocardial pathology tips the patient into decompensation, much as an ansaid or a transfusion might.
That said, I do avoid tzds in patients with low EF, uncontrolled edema or previous CHF while on tzd. I agree, it is not an easy area to manage, even with compliant patients.
Just as troglitazone was used seemingly parodoxically and beneficially for NASH, PIO may find a role in diabetic cardiomyopathy prevention (not in late stage disease treatment). I await the next cardiac MR spectroscopy studies in PIO treated patients.
I still remember the majority of my Rezulin treated patients improved their liver function, but 2 required discontinuation to reverse worsening liver function. The Rezulin withdrawal set back the cardiac research, so we remain on thinner ice with tzds. |
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April 9, 2008 11:24 (EDT)
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TZD Fx rates Thanks for digging out the data, Dan. I yield to the science but remain very skeptical about the numbers.
I confess, most of my diabetics are protected by subcutaneous and visceral padding and bone strengthening 100 kg range weight bearing. I will need to review my TZD associated fx rate but NNH of 33 translates to a remarkable less than 5 for a decade of treatment.
Makes a good argument for long range large registries for post marketing surveilance. |
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April 12, 2008 01:20 (EDT)
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Time to end IVUS studies: mathematical proof PERISCOPE demonstrated reduction of plaque as measured by IVUS with use of pioglitazone and PROACTIVE demonstrated no significant reduction in all macrovascular events with use of pioglitazone; therefore IVUS is not an accurate measure of coronary event risk. How can any IRB justify continued use of this dangerous, invasive and expensive test as a surrogate endpoint in future studies?
To date, the only surrogate marker that has been consistently demonstrated to correlate with dramatic reduction of events is non-progression of calcified plaque by EBT imaging. Where are the EBT studies? CAC by EBT is inexpensive, safe, validated and yet never used.
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April 15, 2008 03:15 (EDT)
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surrogate marker Wiliam, can you please direct me to the surrogate marker studies with EBCT showing a dramatic reduction in events?
I have seen the EBCT data on HR prediction of risk as well as that of CIMT and CTA and QCA, but had not seen any data correlating EBT with a 'dramatic' reduction in events as a monitoring therapy.
Thanks. mc
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April 15, 2008 07:04 (EDT)
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Thanks for asking
Budoff et al (American J Cardiol 2000;86:8-11) found 13 times the incidence of myocardial infarction in patients whose calcified plaque by EBT increased >10% annually compared to those whose plaque progressed <10% annually.
Of 495 patients with coronary artery disease based on EBT placed on atorvastatin, followed for 6 years, Raggi et al (Ateriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology 2004;24:1272) found a 17 times the rate of myocardial infarction in patients whose plaque burdens increased by 15% or more annually compared to those whose plaque burden increased by <15% annually. In addition, of the patients with 0% increase in calcified plaque by EBT (20% of the study group) no heart attacks were observed over the 6 years of the study.
This remarkable association between calcified plaque stability and non-events is true for all levels of calcium scores. In the Raggi study, those individuals with calcium scores over 1,000 whose plaque progressed by 15% or more annually experienced almost a 25% annual rate of MI. Those with scores over 1,000 whose calcified plaque was stable demonstrated a 0.5% annual rate of MI.
Unpublished observations on the St. Francis Heart Study and the MESA heart study are reported to support these findings that stable plaque is associated with very low incidences of heart attacks at all levels of atherosclerosis. The 2007 ACCF/AHA position paper states as much as Ed was kind enough to provide to me.
As calcification of plaque is the quotient of both the quantity of atheroma and the instability the atheroma, I don’t know that other techniques of athosclerotic imaging will have as powerful an association with non-events as serial EBT calcium scores. Indeed, as the point I made on a previous post, Pioglitazone can stabilize or even reduce plaque by IVUS but Pioglitazone is not associated with a statistical difference in macro-vascular events therefore we can reasonably conclude that stability or even reduction of plaque by IVUS (using standard protocol) is a relatively poor marker of infarction risk.
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April 15, 2008 07:05 (EDT)
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One more A study in The American Journal of cardiology, April 1, 2003 showed that progression or stability of serial calcium scores correlated with progression or stability of atherosclerosis by quantitative angiography. Admittedly a surrogate endpoint to predict another surrogate endpoint. |
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April 16, 2008 07:56 (EDT)
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Thanks Wiliam, I guess what I am asking is.... does serial EBT and reducing CACS correlate with reduced events in any clinical studies. I understand CACS is a risk predictor and advancing CACS shows advancing risk.
But many studies are looking at regression or stopping progression of QCA, regression/stopping progression of CITM, regression/stopping progression of IVUS and presuming reduced CAD/CVD events as surrogate.
Is there a study that showed intevention rather than observation limited risk in this surrogate?
I understand that if CACS goes from 5 to 65 or 265 or 465 or 1265 these people enter into a completely different risk category presuming they will rupture that atherosclerosis during the time of study.
I have seen people with CACS of 27 have events and people with CACS of 4300 not have events.
The last numbers we had seen correlating with events were:
CACS 1-10 10 yr risk 1%
CACS 11-99 10 yr risk 10% thats impressive
CACS 100-399 10 yr risk 20% hmm high risk.
CACS >= 400 even higher.
Thanks again.
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April 16, 2008 10:02 (EDT)
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Raggi The Raggi study was rather definitive that the residual risk after treatment with atorvastatin could be accurately measured with serial EBT imaging. I am unaware of any similar studies with other atherosclerotic imaging techniques.
This study was not taken to the point of adding interventions to those with progression, achieving stability and thereby reducing events. That observation however is very clear in my practice where myocardial infarction and stroke events have dropped precipitously since I began that strategy 4 years ago.
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April 17, 2008 01:06 (EDT)
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thanks Wiliam, i really liked this letter in response to a later publications and data. The Raggi article from 1998 was very good.
I think it shows what many (such as yourself) see clinically and what I see now as a board cert lipidologist - that athero and lipid mgmt are much more than LDL, and require much more than 'simple' statin therapy.
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page 42-45
It's nice to see LDL and NHD and TG's reaching such nice goals. The issue in 1.2 years with progressive CAC burden is.....is this progressing or is it just stable calcification of prior athero burden which is soft and EBCT is not sensitive too.
Have newer studies actually shown with aggressive mgmt the reduction in CACS and if so has this correlated to events in a prospective trial? Do you see CACS regression in your clinical practice and if so over what time period?
I really want to know (i agree with the utility of the test, and if I weren't treating my own Dad - i would send him your way for sure), this line of questioning is not intended to be challenging your therapy (I will leave that up to the 'mis'managed care organization which doesn't realize you may be reducing events and saving them money by actively seeking disease with simple screening such as ebct in the appopriate populations and treating appropriately.) thanks...
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April 17, 2008 01:06 (EDT)
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thanks Wiliam, i really liked this letter in response to a later publications and data. The Raggi article from 1998 was very good.
www.circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/114/12/e507
I think it shows what many (such as yourself) see clinically and what I see now as a board cert lipidologist - that athero and lipid mgmt are much more than LDL, and require much more than 'simple' statin therapy.
www.ajconline.org/issues/contents
page 42-45
It's nice to see LDL and NHD and TG's reaching such nice goals. The issue in 1.2 years with progressive CAC burden is.....is this progressing or is it just stable calcification of prior athero burden which is soft and EBCT is not sensitive too.
Have newer studies actually shown with aggressive mgmt the reduction in CACS and if so has this correlated to events in a prospective trial? Do you see CACS regression in your clinical practice and if so over what time period?
I really want to know (i agree with the utility of the test, and if I weren't treating my own Dad - i would send him your way for sure), this line of questioning is not intended to be challenging your therapy (I will leave that up to the 'mis'managed care organization which doesn't realize you may be reducing events and saving them money by actively seeking disease with simple screening such as ebct in the appopriate populations and treating appropriately.) thanks...
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April 17, 2008 10:55 (EDT)
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Unfortunately, they have not been done A prospective placebo controlled study looking at the utility of treating patients with increasing plaque burdens with additional therapy vs placebo and looking for outcome differences has not been done. Ethically, I could not participate is such a study. I hope to be able to do a case/control study using my patient base and compare to similar patients in my former partners’ practice who “do not believe in” calcium imaging.
I usually achieve plaque stability by the 3rd EBT in the vast majority of my patients. I do see some plaque reversal however that is not nearly as common as achieving stability. There are a few patients who have plaque progression by the 3rd EBT and it becomes a challenge to decide what to do next. Sometimes it turns out to be undiagnosed sleep apnea, subclinical diabetes, stress, vit D deficiency or hypogonadism as the only abnormality that I can find after the lipid and blood pressure issues are fully conquered.
The heart attack rates in my patient base are absurdly low. Maybe coincidence, however I think there is a causal relationship with serial calcium imaging to guide therapy and absurdly low infarction rates (2 heart attacks over 5 years in more than 600 patients getting heart scans). My patient base is measured in the thousands but I have only done heart scans on those one would reasonably think might be at risk.
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April 18, 2008 01:49 (EDT)
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April 18, 2008 03:45 (EDT)
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William I also go after all those factors you mention, and I add to that list testing for hypothyroidism, B12 deficiency, Lp(a), and homocysteine, since all of these states are pro-atherogenic.
I have considered also testing for anti-cardiolipin antibodies as well in secondary prevention, but I do not want to consign many patients to a lifetime of warfarin (unless they have had a clot). |
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April 21, 2008 09:57 (EDT)
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CardioRisk.com CardioRisk.com
I have no direct experience with this vendor,.. however I have heard they peform a '1st rate service'. Do you [Dr. Blanchet] have any knowledge as to the specifics of their methodolgy, use of & type of software and clinical utility of their data,..?
Thank you again. |
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June 14, 2008 06:24 (EDT)
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[8075] Reply I still prescribe pioglitazone but not rosiglitazone ,over 2 years up to the moment ,and my patients records showed clear good results of pioglitazone .I believe that the difference is a molecule effect |
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