Interventional/Surgery
COURAGE quality-of-life analysis: Slim early gains with PCI soon disappear
August 13, 2008 | Steve Stiles

Boston, MA - The results of their quality-of-life (QoL) analysis from the Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation (COURAGE) trial [1] are consistent with the message from its primary outcomes [2] and other secondary results, conclude researchers. That message: PCI can often be deferred in patients with stable CAD and significant coronary lesions without adding risk while optimal medical therapy (OMT) is given a chance to work, and it can be considered later if the patient still develops significant symptoms, according to the group.

In the trial's QoL analysis, published in the August 14, 2008 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, OMT either with or without routine early PCI rapidly improved the patients' Seattle Angina Questionnaire (SAQ) scores for physical limitation, angina frequency, overall QoL, and other outcome domains.

The gains with routine PCI were significantly greater than those for OMT-only throughout the first one to two years of follow-up. But the PCI advantages had dissipated by three years, when no significant differences in QoL scores were seen between the two treatment strategies.

The new report does little to settle controversies ignited when the COURAGE primary outcome—similar composite rates of mortality or MI over four to five years for the routine-PCI and OMT-only groups—became public last year. As extensively reported by heartwire, proponents of early routine intervention have questioned the quality of PCI in COURAGE, the relevance of the trial's exceptionally good medical therapy, its statistical power for prespecified end points, other ways it was designed and executed, the authors' interpretation of the data, and their conclusions; but both detractors and defenders of the trial abound.


No additional risk from deferring PCI

According to the QoL report's lead author, Dr William S Weintraub (Christiana Care Health System, Newark, DE), the new analysis is consistent with the trial's primary-outcomes message and the results of its "nuclear substudy" [3], which provided objective evidence that the early PCI strategy was better than first-line OMT at relieving myocardial ischemia. COURAGE, he told heartwire, shows that there is some relief of angina with routine early PCI and that about a third of OMT-only patients will cross over to invasive management. "But lots of patients get better without PCI. So it doesn't mean we shouldn't do PCI, it means that people will not be put at additional risk if PCI is deferred to see [whether] they get better with just medical therapy."

If the patient reports debilitating symptoms on OMT, Weintraub added, "it's reasonable" to go right to PCI. One finding of the study, he said, is that the QoL benefits of PCI were proportional to the severity of angina.

The most remarkable observation from COURAGE is the stellar performance of optimal medical therapy, which not only affected hard outcomes, but more impressively affected outcomes for which PCI clearly was thought to have an advantage, which is relief of angina and ischemia.

Weintraub had presented a preliminary version of the QoL subanalysis at the American College of Cardiology (ACC) 2007 Scientific Sessions, the meeting at which the trial's primary results were also first formally reported. Both analyses were covered at the time by heartwire.

Dr Sanjay Kaul (Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles, CA), who has defended COURAGE in the literature [4], said to heartwire that "the most remarkable observation from COURAGE is the stellar performance of optimal medical therapy, which not only affected hard outcomes, but more impressively affected outcomes for which PCI clearly was thought to have an advantage, which is relief of angina and ischemia."

Although PCI did show significant QoL advantages during the first two years, there is a "disconnect between statistical significance and clinical importance," Kaul said. "While the difference in health status and anginal frequency in COURAGE is unequivocally significant in favor of PCI plus OMT, it is likely too small to be judged as being clinically important."

He continued, "if OMT is just as good and doesn't have the drawbacks of being invasive and associated with some periprocedural complications and added cost, then it stands to reason that the initial treatment strategy should then be optimal medical therapy, failing which PCI can be considered."

Angina frequency: Mean SAQ scores* by randomization group in COURAGE

Follow-up time, mo
PCI + OMT
OMT
p
3
85
80
<0.001
12
87
84
0.003
24
89
86
0.002
36
89
88
0.37

SAQ=Seattle Angina Questionnaire. OMT=optimal medical therapy

*No significant differences between groups at baseline

In an editorial accompanying the QoL analysis [5], Dr Eric D Peterson (Duke Clinical Research Institute, Durham, NC) and Dr John S Rumsfeld (University of Colorado Denver Health Sciences Center) also questioned the clinical importance of PCI's early edge. "Depending on the domain evaluated," they write, "the health-status advantages associated with PCI persisted for six to 24 months. However, although the benefits were significant, the comparative differences were small, leaving open the question of whether a PCI-first strategy is justified."

As most patients in the OMT-only group showed symptomatic improvement within three months while 21% crossed over to PCI, observe Peterson and Rumsfeld, "a very reasonable take-home message from the COURAGE trial is to pursue optimal medical therapy initially and if this is ineffective, turn to PCI."

But interpretations of the QoL analysis vary, as they did for the trial's primary outcomes. The QoL data, Dr Bonnie Weiner (Worcester Medical Center, MA) told heartwire, "clearly shows the symptomatic benefit and the quality-of-life benefit for PCI, and I think that's what the interventional community has been saying all along. I think that actually it's a positive trial from that perspective. . . . I think it reaffirms that patients with more frequent and more severe angina do better with PCI than those with little or no angina. I think that's always been the case, and I don't think any of us have suggested otherwise." Weiner is the immediate past-president of the Society for Cardiovascular Angiography and Interventions.


Stepping back a bit . . . 
The quality of life data . . . clearly shows the symptomatic benefit and the quality-of-life benefit for PCI, and I think that's what the interventional community has been saying all along.

COURAGE had randomized 2287 patients with stable CAD, at least one angiographically significant coronary stenosis, and inducible ischemia to either OMT plus PCI or OMT alone at centers in the US and Canada. Stents were used in the overwhelming majority of PCI cases, and they were bare-metal stents in all but a handful. OMT consisted of agents typical of today: nitrates, beta blockers, calcium-channel blockers, statins, and ACE inhibitors or angiotensin-receptor blockers.

With 1149 patients assigned to early PCI, the 1138 randomized to OMT-only went to revascularization if their angina failed to respond "or when there was objective evidence of worsening ischemia on noninvasive testing, at the discretion of the patient's physician," the primary report notes [2].

The groups didn't differ significantly in the primary end point of death or MI over a median follow-up of 4.6 years; it was 19.0% for early PCI and 18.5% for first-line OMT (p=0.62).

In the trial's 313-patient nuclear imaging substudy [3], the PCI-based approach significantly reduced the total burden of ischemia as judged by stress-single photon emission computed tomography (SPECT) myocardial perfusion imaging. The difference was most profound among patients initially with moderate-to-severe ischemia.

Quality of life: Mean SAQ scores* by randomization group in COURAGE

Follow-up time, mo
PCI + OMT
OMT
p
3
73
68
<0.001
12
76
73
0.008
24
77
76
0.10
36
79
77
0.32

SAQ=Seattle Angina Questionnaire. OMT=optimal medical therapy

*No significant differences between groups at baseline

In the current analysis, SAQ scores for the two groups were similar at baseline for all domains and improved significantly by one to three months (p<0.001 for all improvements), write Weintraub et al. "This finding with respect to the benefit of OMT alone shows that PCI is not always essential for the relief of symptoms in patients with stable angina."

That observation also intrigued the editorialists. "A remarkable finding from the COURAGE study was the rapidity of improvement in health status in both treatment groups. This should serve as encouraging news to patients with coronary disease," they write.

"With contemporary treatment, the majority of patients had substantial improvements in health status that were sustained for several years. At the same time, the rapid improvement with optimal medical therapy alone suggests that antianginal medications are underused in practice."

According to Weintraub et al, "Scores were higher in the PCI group than in the medical-therapy group for six to 24 months, depending on the domain. By 36 months, the addition of PCI to optimal medical therapy no longer provided a significant advantage for any domain."

That eventual QoL parity between COURAGE groups also has more than one interpretation. While some see it as evidence for only a slim practical difference between the strategies, if any, others point to PCI's early advantage as fundamental to the study's message.

PCI's performance in COURAGE was attenuated because DES were only rarely used, observed Weiner. "But for two years or more, the PCI patients felt better, had fewer symptoms, and had a better quality of life," she said. "I do think that's a significant finding."


"Bad PCI and unrealistically good medicine"

PCI didn't surpass OMT more decisively because the trial used "bad PCI and unrealistically good medicine," Dr Dean J Kereiakes (Christ Hospital Heart and Vascular Center, Cincinnati, OH), coauthor of a published critique of the trial's methods [6], told heartwire.

Physical limitation: Mean SAQ scores* by randomization group in COURAGE

Follow-up time, mo
PCI + OMT
OMT
p
3
76
72
0.004
12
75
73
0.21
24
74
72
0.16
36
74
74
0.68

SAQ=Seattle Angina Questionnaire. OMT=optimal medical therapy

*No significant differences between groups at baseline

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"I'm amazed PCI as performed in this trial maintained superiority through two years, because of the extremely high frequency of bare-metal stents, high frequency of standard balloon angioplasty, and the incomplete revascularization in the PCI cohort," Kereiakes said.

According to the trial's primary report, "complete revascularization was performed as clinically appropriate." But it also notes that 69% and 70% of routine-PCI and OMT-only patients, respectively, had two- or three-vessel disease, whereas only 41% of routine-PCI patients received more than one stent [2]. Only 31 patients received DES, which for most of the study had yet to become available, the report notes.

These data contribute to my enthusiasm for doing PCI better than was done in this trial.

"Think of what could have been achieved if more complete PCI had been performed, with optimal technology—that is, with drug-eluting stents. You would have had a more durable benefit of PCI," Kereiakes said.

Excellent medical therapy and a high level of compliance within the confines of the clinical trial also narrowed the outcomes gap between the two patient groups, Kereiakes said. "The level of medication and even the goals achieved, as far as blood-pressure control, cholesterol levels, etc, were truly remarkable in this trial. It's admirable, I think it's inspirational, but it's unrealistic."


In the eye of the beholder

He added, "Patients with objective evidence of ischemia, absolutely, if feasible, should have PCI plus OMT, unless there are mitigating circumstances." PCI wouldn't be required, he said, if medication completely controls both symptoms and objectively documented ischemia, whether symptomatic or silent.

"These data contribute to my enthusiasm for doing PCI better than was done in this trial," Kereiakes said. "Still giving optimal medications to the extent that they're tolerated and the patients are compliant, I have no doubt that a strategy of complete revascularization with optimal technologies would provide a significantly greater gap than was demonstrated to two years in this trial and would extend that benefit beyond two years."

On the latter point, Weiner seemed to agree. If recurrent symptoms after PCI are often due to restenosis and DES can "virtually eliminate" restenosis—both ideas are borne out by the data—and then if DES are used in COURAGE-like patients, "it's not unreasonable to think that the separation between the two groups would be wider, and it would be maintained for a longer period of time," she said.

High-risk anatomy and a high-risk functional stress test—a large amount of myocardial ischemia and compromised LV function—those would be reasons why I would offer PCI over medical therapy.

More conservative about when to perform PCI in COURAGE-like patients, Kaul outlined a scenario he thinks might indicate invasive management. "If on objective assessment you demonstrate a substantial degree of myocardial ischemia in association with reduced LV systolic function, that would be a case where I could justify an initial PCI strategy," he said.

"I would say, high-risk anatomy and a high-risk functional stress test—a large amount of myocardial ischemia and compromised LV function—those would be reasons why I would offer PCI over medical therapy [only]."

Editorialists Peterson and Rumsfeld emphasize that OMT and PCI aren't actually competitors. "The COURAGE trial redefines the contemporary roles of optimal medical therapy and PCI in the management of patients with stable angina. Rather than one victor, COURAGE demonstrates that both treatment strategies can have a profoundly positive effect on patients' health status and suggests complementary roles—optimal medical therapy as first-line therapy, with PCI reserved for patients who do not have a response or who have severe baseline symptoms."

Weintraub reports receiving "consulting fees from Sanofi-Aventis, GlaxoSmithKline, Indigo Pharmaceuticals, and CV Therapeutics and grant support from Sanofi-Aventis, AstraZeneca, Otsuka, and Bristol-Myers Squibb"; disclosures for the other COURAGE coauthors and for the two editorialists are listed in the papers. Kaul and Weiner say they have no conflicts to disclose. Kereiakes reports grant and/or research support from Abbott/Bioabsorbable Vascular Solutions, Amylin Pharmaceuticals, Cordis/Johnson & Johnson, Boston Scientific, Medtronic, and Daiichi Sanyko; receiving consulting fees from Devax, Eli Lilly, Boston Scientific, Abbott Vascular Solutions, Medpace, and Cordis/Johnson & Johnson; and being on the Eli Lilly speakers' bureau.

Sources
  1. Weintraub WS, Spertus JA, Kolm P, et al. Effect of PCI on quality of life in patients with stable coronary disease. N Engl J Med 2008; 359:677-687.
  2. Boden WE, O'Rourke RA, Teo KK, et al. Optimal medical therapy with or without PCI for stable coronary disease. N Engl J Med 2007; 356:1503-16.
  3. Shaw LJ, Berman DS, Maron DJ, et al. Optimal medical therapy with or without percutaneous coronary intervention to reduce ischemic burden: results from the Clinical Outcomes Utilizing Revascularization and Aggressive Drug Evaluation (COURAGE) trial nuclear substudy. Circulation 2008; 117:1283-1291.
  4. Diamond GA, Kaul S. COURAGE under fire. On the management of stable coronary disease. J Am Coll Cardiol 2007; 50:1604-1609.
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  6. Kereiakes DJ, Teirstein PS, Sarembock IJ, et al. The truth and consequences of the COURAGE trial. J Am Coll Cardiol 2007; 50: 1598-1603.



Your comments
COURAGE quality-of-life analysis: Slim early gains with PCI soon disappear
# 1 of 16
August 13, 2008 05:09 (EDT)
D Hackam
are you surprised...?
...that PCI applied to patients with chronic stable angina (as opposed to crescendo or medically refractory angina) could possibly provide a long-term quality of life benefit versus medical therapy?
# 2 of 16
August 13, 2008 07:05 (EDT)
Naveen R
ugh
PCI didn't surpass OMT more decisively because the trial used "bad PCI and unrealistically good medicine," Dr Dean J Kereiakes (Christ Hospital Heart and Vascular Center, Cincinnati, OH), coauthor of a published critique of the trial's methods [6], told heartwire.

The only thing unrealistic is the idea that this study will curb the number of unncessary interventions done all in the name of RVUs..
# 3 of 16
August 14, 2008 06:19 (EDT)
con aroney
QOL should have been primary endpoint
No previous PCI vs medical therapy studies (ACME, MASS, MASS-II, RITA-2, TIME, AVERT) had suggested a reduction in death/MI; and in any case COURAGE was never powered to determine a difference in the primary endpoint (power estimate of 21% event rate in control group at 3 years; actual control event rate 11%), although the nuclear subtsudy (Circ 117:1283-91) strongly suggested a mortality benefit in patients with residual ischemia.

The only rational reason for performing this trial was to to confirm a difference in quality of life (which had previously been shown to be better with PCI in the above studies). Despite a massive 33% crossover, there was a significant difference in QOL parameters. Surprise, surprise.
# 4 of 16
August 14, 2008 08:32 (EDT)
Melissa Walton-Shirley
Before we put away the balloon and stent.....
Make certain your patient REALLY is patient who benefited from the non invasive approach in the COURAGE trial.
Con,
Excellent point. We always sweep the cross over folks behind the door. Yet, COURAGE did give us the motivation to try medical therapy in angina patients. I think we also have to be careful to tell our patients upon whom we are trying to impress COURAGE data that such things as sedentary life style, smoking, NOT TAKING ONE'S MEDICATIONS will cause you to fail MEDICAL therapy AND to contact us if symptoms are progressive. Just because a patient looks like a successful COURAGE trial patient doesn't mean they really will be. Although I embraced this data, I respect that we must utilize Caution with implementing this data in private practice. The results could be disastrous when trying to utilize medical therapy in a patient with a large territory of ischemia but good exercise duration if they are NOT compliant.
Remember, look behind the COURAGE trial door and see all of those patients who are waving at us with no angina and patent stents. They really were a part of the COURAGE trial too.
Melissa
# 5 of 16
August 14, 2008 08:42 (EDT)
Gurjaipal Kang
93% angiographic success in COURAGE trial is extremely poor.
Angiographic success rate in COURAGE trial was only 93% whereas quality private hospitals like ours have ACC registry data which is extremely accurate indicating success rate of 99.7%. Henceforth, results from studies like COURAGE don't apply to good interventional centers.
Interventional trials are not like drug trials where everyone gets the same drug. Individual operator competence differences are massive especially if you have fellows doing interventions versus experienced operators.
# 6 of 16
August 14, 2008 09:58 (EDT)
Melissa Walton-Shirley
good point
Another good point about the angiographic success rate.
Melissa
# 7 of 16
August 17, 2008 05:06 (EDT)
Wiliam Blanchet
Let's apply the same standad to PCI as we do for EBT-CAC
As there is no DATA showing improvement with elective PCI for treatment of angina or asymptomatic ischemia it is should be reimbursed the same as EBT-CAC. Anyone who supports the concept that EBT-CAC should not be recommended or insurance reimbursed should also support the concept that elective PCI should not be recommended or insurance reimbursed.

The fact is that the logic supporting the concept that EBT-CAC is beneficial is massive, the only thing missing is a prospective study showing improved outcomes. With elective PCI, the prospective studies have been done (RITA II and Courage) and PCI has been shown to have no value! Despite this, insurance companies continue to pay for elective PCI and generally don't cover EBT-CAC. I thought this was about science and improving outcomes.
# 8 of 16
August 18, 2008 08:29 (EDT)
Melissa Walton-Shirley
Well. here goes..........
William,
I appreciate your passion on this subject, but making statements like "PCI has been shown to have no value" is a symptom of extreme bias as well. There was a substantial cross over rate due to lack of angina control or due to progressive symptoms in COURAGE. To cast off the benefit of PCI is ridiculous.
EBT-CAC shows promise of being a good tool for monitoring progression or regression but won't do anything for angina control in patients who are already optimally medically managed. In almost all cases for comparison, it has not nearly as much data as other modalities for testing in the coronary world.Even if our medications are optimal, the well demonstrated 50% compliance rates in America will betray any of our efforts on occasion.
Simply being CAC-phobic or Stent-phobic isn't enough to treat our patients. If we took them to the cath lab to begin with due to significant angina or progressive angina, the patient would not wrongly wind up with a stent, yet even that turn of events is frowned upon by proponents of calcium score advocates for reason I cannot fathom. I don't know if it's a strange jealousy of that capability, or of income (angiography certainly isn't a gold mine.....sweat for 30 minutes to find an aberrant RCA and you'll have no more reimbursement than a 15 minute cath) or what. It seems almost like the same arguments between alternative medicine and main stream medicine except I really don't view CAC issues as alternative even though they are yet unstudied and unproven. I think it makes logical sense, though I think that modalities that are coming down the pike such as nuclear tagging of vulnerable plaque AND scoring combined with CT will give information about current status of fixed obstructive disease and monitoring capability all at the same time. (Yes, I know that CT is a surrogate for cath in the eyes of CAC proponents).
As to the slurrs and slamms against cardiologists who cath pts with large territories of reversible ischemia, we must apply logic. Even though we'd love for patients to walk in clutching their chest with the levine sign, it has been suggested that at least 30% of patients who are even suffering an MI have silent ischemia. Sometimes their pain is misinterpreted so we aren't always clear on what their angina is even after an interview. I've had several patients to declare that I cured their arthitic shoulder pain by sending them for PCI EVEN AFTER careful questioning with "no" symptoms, so you cannot just wait for symptoms.
My point should be well taken when I relate this story; A 39 year old obese poorly controlled diabetic I had never seen phoned me after an EGD demonstrated gastritis/esophagitis. His symptoms were not remitting so against my better judgement, I did a stress exam because he refused to be admitted to the hospital. His entire anterior wall disappeared post stress then re-distributed. I cath'd him. My partner PCI'd a tight HUGE proximal LAD. His "gastritis" symptoms were cured. Now change the scenario to a large territory of reversible ischemia with absolutely NO symptoms, but perhaps they were diabetic and with neuropathy. According to you guys, we should not perform PCI because he has no symptoms????? That is where we have to apply common sense to evidence based medicine.
So, I appreciate your passion, but you do your cause a great disservice by lack of balance on the topic. I really don't want to read a 45 post tyrade on the same old topic. We get it. We know that calcium score shows promise and no one is pulling for that more than cardiologists who are really looking for ways to help our patients or to help prevent folks from becoming patients. I support wide spread screening because common sense tells you it might be helpful for monitoring and detection. I hope that someday we will have proof.
Melissa
# 9 of 16
August 18, 2008 09:18 (EDT)
Wiliam Blanchet
You are correct
PCI is indeed a valuable tool in the treatment of coronary disease, even in the elective setting with appropriate selection of subjects. I was simply taking the argument that is repeated so many times that it starts sounding like a fact "we should not apporve CAC for insurance coverage until there is a study showing it adds value" and applying it to another cardiac technology.

The next time an interventional cardiologist who knows that PCI is of value criticizes EBT-CAC as having "no study to prove it makes any difference" they should pause and realize what they are saying.

# 10 of 16
August 19, 2008 10:53 (EDT)
Wiliam Blanchet
I was just making the point, balance has 2 sides.
Melissa,

Let's be balanced regarding PCI but continue to suppress EBT-CAC (as has been the practice of organized cardiology for the last decade) is wrong and people are dying because of this policy!

I indeed use interventional cardiology, PCI, and CABG in my practice in addition to effective medical management both in the primary prevention and secondary prevention settings. I firmly believe that if more than 10% of the myocardium is ischemic by spect imaging, revascularization is indicated regardless of the patient's presence or lack of symptoms. The symptomatic patient also can benefit in ways other than increased survival. I also know that without EBT-CAC, I could not do my job.

None of these conclusions are based upon a randomized prospective study but rather on careful analysis of existing literature and 28 years of experience.

Now how about a little balance among industry leaders. The demand that CAC is of no value until there is a randomized study showing improvement in outcomes represents a remarkable level of hypocrisy considering the fact that almost no cardiovascular procedure can claim that distinction.
# 11 of 16
August 19, 2008 05:10 (EDT)
Michael Cobble, M.D.
tests and limits
My comments at bottom:

DIAD study

OBJECTIVE— To assess the prevalence and clinical predictors of silent myocardial ischemia
in asymptomatic patients with type 2 diabetes and to test the effectiveness of current American
Diabetes Association screening guidelines.
RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS— In the Detection of Ischemia in Asymptomatic
Diabetics (DIAD) study, 1,123 patients with type 2 diabetes, aged 50–75 years, with no
known or suspected coronary artery disease, were randomly assigned to either stress testing and
5-year clinical follow-up or to follow-up only. The prevalence of ischemia in 522 patients
randomized to stress testing was assessed by adenosine technetium-99m sestamibi singlephoton
emission–computed tomography myocardial perfusion imaging.
RESULTS— A total of 113 patients (22%) had silent ischemia, including 83 with regional
myocardial perfusion abnormalities and 30 with normal perfusion but other abnormalities (i.e.,
adenosine-induced ST-segment depression, ventricular dilation, or rest ventricular dysfunction).
Moderate or large perfusion defects were present in 33 patients. The strongest predictors
for abnormal tests were abnormal Valsalva
(odds ratio [OR] 5.6), male sex (2.5), and diabetes
duration (5.2). Other traditional cardiac
risk factors or inflammatory and
prothrombotic markers were not predictive.
Ischemic adenosine-induced ST-segment depression
with normal perfusion (n  21) was
associated with women (OR 3.4). Selecting
only patients who met American Diabetes Association
guidelines would have failed to identify
41% of patients with silent ischemia.
CONCLUSIONS — Silent myocardial
ischemia occurs in greater than one in five
asymptomatic patients with type 2 diabetes.
Traditional and emerging cardiac risk factors
were not associated with abnormal stress tests,
although cardiac autonomic dysfunction was a
strong predictor of ischemia.
Diabetes Care 27:1954–1961, 2004

BUT DO WE KNOW IF FINDING THIS SILENCT ISCHEMIA HELPED WITH OUTCOMES???

Another article looking at perfusion testing this year (I can't recall the reference) had more than 1000 pts with (negative history for cad) HTN for at least 10 years, age early 60's showed similar results. People with DM and HTN 40% had abnl MPI. People with just HTN nearly 20% had abnl MPI. Nearly 20% of those with DM had high risk MPI.

The only point I wanted to make is that all tests have limitations, all interventions have limitations. Nothing is perfect whether it be BP monitoring, lipid monitoring, glucose monitoring or imaging/interventions ETT, SPECT, PCI, CABG, CACS, etc... I think when clinicians understand the limitations of certain tests but also understand the benefits - that is wonderful balance. I do think people at times can be afraid of change or the unknown and sometimes 'experts' discuss things for which they don't have adequate understanding.

Thanks Melissa and William for both excellent points - this kind of discussion makes this forum great. Mike
# 12 of 16
August 19, 2008 05:32 (EDT)
Melissa Walton-Shirley
Thanks
Thanks Mike and William,
I will counter by stating that good old Bruce Data is helpful in making the decision to cath or not. Low exercise duration moderate ischemia is of course more concerning than long duration moderate ischemia.
thanks for both of your posts,
Melissa
Melissa
# 13 of 16
August 22, 2008 07:51 (EDT)
shoaib ali
not surprised
thats what i always believed , intervene only if necessary. PCI is not statin, but use it when needed, if pain and objective angina is rel by OMT than why do pci?.
# 14 of 16
September 12, 2008 01:46 (EDT)
George Thayil
Congratulations "Courage "
I just want to appreciate William Boden for his marvelous study. It definitely opened the eyes of the pure interventional cardiologists to think twice before they take a ballon catheter. The importance of prevention and optimal medical therapy comes first which now a days is conveniently forgotten. Dr. George Thayil MD,FACC
# 15 of 16
September 12, 2008 04:14 (EDT)
Melissa Walton-Shirley
agree
George, You are correct. It really changed my practice life, though we have our share of ACS and still need to cath/intervene, stable but abnormal treadmillers can now have the option of medical therapy, provided they don't smoke and really ARE courage trial candidates.
Melissa
# 16 of 16
October 19, 2008 12:20 (EDT)
George Thayil
Courage trial and diabetic patients
Are the 'Courage' results always applicable to diabetic patients with silent ischemia? A diabetic patient with triple vessel disease having significant ST depression during Treadmill Test and no inducible angia, what would be the therapeutic approach? diabetic patient is a high risk patient, but without symptoms can we subject him to PCI/CABG? Dr. George Thayil MD,FACC

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