Radial-access PCI rarely performed but associated with 58% less bleeding than femoral PCI
Durham, NC - Using the radial artery for access to the heart during percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI) is extremely rare in clinical practice, but despite its limited use, the approach is associated with equivalent procedural success to femoral access as well as lower rates of bleeding and vascular complications, even among high-risk patients, a new study has shown [1].
"Studies have shown that up to 85% of bleeding complications in patients undergoing PCI are related to the access site, and we know that bleeding in and of itself is associated with an increased risk of mortality and morbidity," lead investigator Dr Sunil Rao (Duke Clinical Research Institute, Durham, NC) told heartwire. "If you take the access site out of the equation, we have the potential to substantially reduce bleeding complications, which is what the clinical trials of radial vs femoral have shown in the past."
People who do a lot of radial PCI actually look for an excuse not to do it.
Publishing their real-world results in the August 2008 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology: Cardiovascular Interventions, the investigators analyzed data from the National Cardiovascular Data Registry, selecting first-time PCIs performed with radial or femoral access in nonemergency cases. The purpose of the analysis was to determine how often radial PCI was performed in the US, especially in those at high risk for bleeding complications, and assess the outcomes of the procedure in the clinical setting.
They identified 593 094 patients who underwent PCI between January 2004 and March 2007. Of those, 1.32% were treated using radial-artery access. Despite the limited use of radial PCI during the period, the approach was associated with a similar rate of success and a 58% lower risk of bleeding complications. The reduction in bleeding was even more pronounced among women, the elderly, and patients undergoing PCI for acute coronary syndrome.
Adjusted association between radial PCI and primary outcomes (femoral PCI as reference)
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Adjusted odds ratio (95% CI)
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Procedural success
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1.02 (0.92-1.12)
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Any bleeding complication
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0.42 (0.31-0.56)
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To download table as a slide, click on slide logo above
"The traditional approach has been to say, 'Here is a patient that would be good for the radial approach,' " said Rao. "People who do a lot of radial PCI actually look for an excuse not to do it. The radial route should be the default approach now, with the availability of equipment and now the data showing that you don't sacrifice anything when you do the radial approach."
Moving from femoral access to the radial route
While there is a tremendous focus on reducing bleeding complications in modern-era PCI, Rao said most efforts are directed toward pharmacologic strategies, but simply switching to radial-access PCI would be a way to reduce those risks. The MORTAL study, he noted, even showed a mortality benefit with the radial approach over femoral access at one year, a benefit likely driven by the reduction in bleeding.
While there is a learning curve, it's really not that much harder. It's one of those situations where if you do a few of them, you really get the hang of it.
Asked about some of the difficulties in getting clinicians to adopt the radial approach, Rao said there might be some preconceived notions about the difficulty of the approach or physician inertia to change, especially among practicing cardiologists who like doing things a certain way or who haven't been exposed to the technique during training. He added that there hasn't been a concerted effort from industry to push the radial approach, although he suspects all of these barriers will be overcome, especially with the increased attention to bleeding risks in PCI.
"The learning curve with the radial approach is variable, and it depends on how tactile clinicians are with catheter manipulation," said Rao. "I can tell you that while there is a learning curve, it's really not that much harder. It's one of those situations where if you do a few of them, you really get the hang of it. We've encouraged our fellows to learn it during training, so that when they get out, they'll already have the techniques in the back of their mind."
Source
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Rao SV, Ou FS, Wang TY, et al. Trends in the prevalence and outcomes of radial and femoral approaches to percutaneous coronary intervention. J Am Coll Cardiol Intv 2008; 1:1379-86.
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August 21, 2008 05:47 (EDT)
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Nice work Sunil - nice work. I agree that the radial approach is very teachable/learnable, and that patients prefer it. There used to be a thought that radials had a higher stroke rate due to more difficult manipulation and crossing the right common carotid, but I am not sure that this is true. UConn has been performing primarily radials for many years and I am excited to be a part of this program now. KPS |
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August 22, 2008 04:42 (EDT)
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This is not news ... But it's still important data to publish. The more the words gets out about the benefits of radial PCI, the more likely physician practice patterns will change. |
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August 22, 2008 11:22 (EDT)
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Nice job Sunil, as always! There is less bleeding from the radial approach, but there are tradeoffs too: More radiation for the operator, and less guide support in RCA interventions.
Hope all is well,
Mike
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August 23, 2008 04:31 (EDT)
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It's important to change In my opinion interventional cardiologists have to become more familiar with radial approach, particularly in the emergency setting, in which there is a widespread use of anticoagulant and antiplatelet drugs and the bleeding complications are very likely. |
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August 24, 2008 10:08 (EDT)
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News? Not wanting to be too controversial but in Europe we have known all of this for years. In the UK the number of PCIs via the radial route increases exponentially and at our institution (University Hospital Wales)we perform 75% of PCI cases radially. This includes rota cases, CTOs, bifurcation stents and grafts. In fact sheathless guides now allow routine use of 7F via the radial artery. OVer 75% of our elective PCI is performed as a result as a day-case. There is also plenty of European data showing the significant reduction in bleeding associated with the radial route which is hardly surprising. Glad that our American cousins might finally be coming around to this idea though. |
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August 24, 2008 07:24 (EDT)
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cardiology luddites? Here in Victoria Canada (Royal Jubilee hosp) we have been performing radial PCI for more than 10 years and have published our results showing the feasibilty and safety of radial PCI in all groups of patients. Patients prefer the radial approach.
Inspite of this most centers in Canada still use femoral access.There is no excuse for this.
Pehaps if large payors such as HICFA refused to reimburse for prolonged hospital stays following major bleeding complications due to femoral puncture (in patients who were candidates for radial)there would be a financial interest in switching to radial PCI/angios. Money always trumps science.
As Mark Twain said "ALWAYS DO RIGHT--IT WILL GRATIFY SOME AND ASTONISH THE REST"
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August 24, 2008 09:01 (EDT)
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Radial Pockets Dr. Tejas Patel, who introduced radial to India, said that there are "pockets" of radial practitioners around the world. One of the reasons is that when one cardiologist or center starts offering radial, patients hear about it and gravitate to them, because patient preference for radial is high. Competition then spurs the spread of radial in that area. More can be read about radial access in our special "Radial Access Center" on Angioplasty.Org.
As for not being able to do complex cases from the wrist, I recently watched Dr. Shigeru Saito do 4 CTO cases in one afternoon using the radial approach -- all successful! |
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August 26, 2008 06:36 (EDT)
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Fanciful approach does not guarantee adequacy of intervention This is a non-randomized report. The cases using radial approach vs. femoral one are not of same conditions, i.e., pre-selected. So the success rate is not important. Another point is radial artery injury, how many radial arteries remain patent after the procedures? A fad in not necessary the "truth". |
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August 26, 2008 06:57 (EDT)
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Excellent work Great paper Sunil! thanks. |
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August 26, 2008 08:03 (EDT)
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Fanciful? Dr Yang,
Your lack of knowledge and your fanciful post on this subject deplorable but understandable.
For your information, there is a wealth of randomized data and published articles on this topic, including on radial artery patency rates. Radial PCI is not a fad. I encourage you to read more about this topic or possibly even attend a radial course/tutorial. Only then will you discover all about the "truth". |
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August 26, 2008 09:23 (EDT)
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August 26, 2008 09:40 (EDT)
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Lab barriers Enjoyed your study, Sunil, and sorry I missed you on your last pass through Cincinnati.
Due to the fact that peripheral vascular intervention is a significant part of my practice, I find myself working from the radial and brachial approaches more than many of my colleagues, but I have to admit that I don't like it. The staff rolls their eyes and sighs, the lab arrangement results in uncomfortable bodily contortions in order to see the screen and monitors (particulary in peripheral cases), and I do get blasted with scatter radiation.
To gain wide acceptance, staff will need training and many labs will need some "tweaking" to make it easier. Do you use any special shielding at Duke to cut down on the scatter radiation exposure?
Hope all is well with you.
Joel |
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August 26, 2008 09:49 (EDT)
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RADIAL INTERVENTIONS IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS Our Institution in Chennai performs 60% of Interventions by Radial approach. But in Emergency PCI with Impending shock/Bradyarrytmias, The femoral puncture is still required for pacing/IABP.
Also in case of a Elective PCI " CRASH" ,one still needs a femoral/Neck line Pacing. |
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August 26, 2008 10:32 (EDT)
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Just like a femoral (almost) Joel,
I try to make a radial case as much like a right femoral case as possible. I just shift the drape over, where one hole is over the right radial, and the other is over the right femoral. I usually keep the arm at the patient's side, so there is no gap for equipment to hang. The radiation should be no different than a femoral case. I try to avoid using the left arm for reasons you site, i.e. opposite side of the table, etc. You have to use left for LIMA, unless you have hours to spend trying to engage it from the right.
For Dr. Yang, there is a reported 3% asymptomatic radial artery thrombosis rate. If your Allen's is normal, it shouldn't matter. And if you think about it, surgeons sacrifice the radial for conduit on a regular basis. I probably wouldn't use radial in a renal failure patient who may end up needing an AV fistula. |
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August 27, 2008 01:33 (EDT)
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Thanks I'll try draping the way you describe. It certainly sounds much easier than our standard of prepping the arm away from the body. What is the Forum's experience with sheathless guides up to 7 Fr as mentioned in a prior post? |
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August 27, 2008 02:15 (EDT)
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To Mehrdad Saririan I encourage you to think more carefully before you comment.
OK., So you are doing or planning to do radial approachl? And I presume it's mostly single-plane instead of bi-plane view of the coronary arteries. Are you sure you won't miss vital anatomic informations? Radiation and contrast doses are also of concern. As for CTO, besides problems with wiring, our experiences are they are mostly filled with organized thrombus and simple-minded balloon-stenting made distal embolization an easy task with poor myocardial blush as the end results. If you set your mind to do one-hour job regardless of the results, then routine radial approach is for you. |
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August 27, 2008 05:54 (EDT)
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Good point Wenyi Certainly there are pro's and con's but Wenyi does make an excellent point about missed opportunities. Through out my nearly 20 years of cath experience, ONLY because I had a little drag on my 35 guidewire down in the the distal aorta or what looked like iliac tortuosity, I've panned down and shot the aorta to find a small AAA that caused me to place that patient on serial follow ups. So many of them aren't palpable and you can't justify (in the blinded and biased worlds of medicare/insurance) screening the asymptomatic individual without physical exam finding. We live in the land of PVD here. Yes, I could try and pan down the aorta post LV gram or even do a root if I were doing radials, but the motivation and even the justification wouldn't be there without a little more evidence such as findings on the way up to the coronaries from the Femoral artery.
So many of my aorta's have gone on to endovascular or open surgical repair throughout the last 2 decades. There is no doubt that we have impacted the acute rupture rates in our territory by VERY early detection.
I have tremendous respect for both Sunil and Mehrdad's opinion and experience, however, 50% less bleeding than femorals is likely a large improvement in the academic setting, but with experienced operators only performing arteriotomies at non academic centers, I'll bet bleeding and femoral complications are not as common? (I shudder to think about my groin sticks while in training)
It's kind of like the old saying that we used to apply to Judkins or Multi's. Do what you were trained to do and are the most comfortable with. I'm not certain that it's worth my time and effort to "learn" the radial approach when I rarely have to convert to a brachial anyway and I rarely have problems from the femoral stand point. *knocking all kinds of wood now that I've made that statement.
but as usual, I'm willing to consider all of the issues.
Melissa
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August 27, 2008 07:51 (EDT)
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good practice, not new We at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary in Scotland have adopted Radial approach for majority of elective and acute PCI's in the last 4 years. All fellows are trained in the technique as a routine. As eluded to,'simulating' a femoral appraoch with wrist on the side of the groin and using the same femoraldrape with no gaps ( and prepared groin for IABP/TVP if required) is helpful and also cuts on radiation. Using Bivalirudin with no IIb/IIIa further adds to the benefit of lowered bleeding complication rate.
Thank you for the paper- adds to the substantial existent evidence for benefits of this route. |
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August 27, 2008 07:09 (EDT)
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Dr Yang & Melissa I will try and answer all of your comments.
Dr Yang, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Radial catheterization does not affect coronary visualization. There is no "vital" coronary anatomic information lost. Based on publised studies, there no increase in the use of contrast. Early studies did suggest higher radiation doses to the operator. However, most operators and radial centers now swing the arm to the side of the patient, thus making radiation exposure virtually the same as the femoral approach. And to your last comment, Dr. Shigeru Saito, a renowned expert on CTO, has no problems doing his prolonged cases from the wrist. Are you accusing him of doing a "one-hour" job? Dr. Yang, I beg of you to read more on this subject. Your posts are just plain silly. Are you a trainee/fellow?
Melissa, Dr. Rao derived his bleeding data from the NCDR registry. That includes YOU. Yes, YOU. Despite your masterful groin sticks the likes of which have never before been seen, bleeds do occur. Don't act so surprised. The NCDR registy woudn't be a registry if only academic center data were included. And finally, there is just no counter-argument to be made about your anecdotal AAA experience. Even if I were to tell you that cholesterol emboli syndrome is a real entity, caused by invasive arterial punctures typically from the femoral approach, which also typically occurs in patients with PVD and aorto-iliac disease, you still wouldn't be convinced. |
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August 27, 2008 10:03 (EDT)
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Mehrdad, you're so testy! Mehrdad,
I apologize for my low complication rate with my femoral sticks. I'll try to do better in the future to support your quest for radial PCI the world over. (kidding).
Now Now. Don't be testy. We all applaude your success and your enthusiasm. It's just difficult for us to change that which is definitely working for us.
I'm convinced that choleserol emboli syndrome is a real entity, it's just that I've only seen one supposed case of it on one occasion. There again, I'll try to do better.
Best of luck. May the entire world convert to radial approach before the end of our careers or our lives, which ever comes first.
Melissa |
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August 28, 2008 02:53 (EDT)
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Change Changing a habit, especially when we are convinced about it, is always difficult. Howeveer, with Rao´s data, everyone who is routinely doing the femoral approach should think about changing to the radial one.
I am sure, we won´t reach this reduction in bleeding from the femoral approach even with the best anticoagulation and the most sophisticated closure device. Thank´s for the great study
Martin |
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August 28, 2008 04:09 (EDT)
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Training What are training options to learn radial catheterization (and PCI) in the US or UK for those who trained in the days prior to radial interventions? I'm wondering if there are places that offer a 1 month "mini-fellowship" either in the US or UK.
Personally, I don't think radial approach is an absolute necessity but for sure, it's a skill definitely worth learning - but has to be learnt well. I've seen people "wing it" after doing a few cases under supervision - definitely NOT the way to go.
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August 28, 2008 07:40 (EDT)
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This is an important discussion Fahim,
I'm certain Merhdad and Sunil et al. look at us very much like I used to view one of our attendings back in the 1980's who did a brachial cut down on 100% of all of his caths until he exceded his life time rad exposure and was forced to the leg. I'm patient with their enthusiasm, but after thousands of caths (mind you , I do diagnostic caths, so I don't have to deal with the same bleed risks) with low complication rate, it doesn't seem plausible.
Merhdad, if you were participating on theheart.org forum years ago, I covered the radial topic here after seeing a French physician do a radial PCI and was really impressed. I think this is wonderful technology. However, for me at this point in my career to change, it's a "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" situation.
Many physicians are in my position. We're booked 8 weeks ahead of time in the office. Feel guilty for taking 3 meetings per year and a summer vacation with our family. To carve out the time it would take to become proficient is difficult and with a low complication rate already, is likely not worth it. As for your comment about AAA's, you'd have to be crazy NOT to acknowledge the impact we've had as we've registered 11,000 caths in our hospital alone in the past few years and of those, we find a "young" AAA at least every few weeks. So, to ignore a fact because it's not in a randomized trial is ludicrous. (Have you seen a randomized trial for breathing vs. not breathing?) I applaud your efforts and I think you are the wave of the future. However, the future and the present are always forced to coexist together for a time with regard to any new modality.
Melissa |
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August 28, 2008 08:34 (EDT)
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Agree I agree, Melissa, groin complications ARE uncommon and your lab obviously practices good cardiology to have such a good record. As I said it's not an absolutely necessary skill to have but certainly a good one to acquire - esp when you get that 400-pounder on the table. I also agree that time constraints are often prohibitive to allow formal training but on the flip side, it's always great fun to learn a new skill (did a cardiac CT minifellowship last year, was fab!). I also truly and honest believe that without formal training folks should not be doing radial (or for that matter any other) procedures. I strongly advocate against "on the job" training with a colleague - you're never as confident as you ought to be and confidence is vital in this business. You're better off in that case to stick with the groin approach and refer those with no groin access to someone else.
So back to my original question, is there any high volume center that offers a minifellowhsip for a month?
Fahim Jafary |
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August 28, 2008 09:03 (EDT)
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Tift Mann, Wake Heart Associates, Raleigh, NC Dr. Mann gives lectures nationally on radial approach, and offers on-site training. I don't know the volume or length of the training.
If you can do brachial, you can do radial. The key is access. There are well-designed access kits which help. I always give some anticoagulation, and I like verapamil 3mg through the sheath prior to catheter insertion. Some people like NTG. There are radial-specific catheters, but the standard ones we use from the leg work most of the time. Sometimes you need a smaller curve, i.e JL 3.5 instead of 4. |
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August 28, 2008 12:05 (EDT)
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New York Terumo offers a 2-day hands on radial course out in New York. There's also Dr. Mann's course. Dr. Patel offers a course in India. I am working to get a course started in the southwest. It really isn't a difficult skill to acquire. I think it is the "preconceived notions" that Dr. Rao talks about that is the main limiting step. Once you get around to the idea that radial PCI is better for patients, you soon realize that the skill isn't all that different than a brachial approach to PCI, or femoral for that matter.
Fahim, you don't need a month fellowship. Definitely not. I can't imagine a good interventionalist not picking up this skill after a few patients. Once you pass this initial hurdle, the rest is just mere practice and volume. The more you do, the better you get.
Sorry for my testiness. The "fad" comment just bugged the heck out of me. How can anyone ignore the wealth of data on the benefits of radial PCI? I sure tell you, if the Medicines Company was dropping a crap load of money into marketing this approach, handing out pens to docs with a "radial enthusiant" logo, no one would call radial PCI a fad.
Melissa, I forget that you don't do interventions. Radial cath isn't necessarily for you. :-) |
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August 28, 2008 01:15 (EDT)
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grrr another typo should have read enthusiast |
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August 30, 2008 09:02 (EDT)
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well, here's another thought or two Interesting discussion. I'll just add that I did the original caths for the 4 fr. catheters for cordis along with a fellow fellow Jeff Schoen back in the dark ages, 1989-91 and we both thought the catheters gave terrible visualization with poor flow rates and terrible steribility. We did right brachial approach, had to always take the catheters with the wire down to the aortic valve to even get it to seat in the left main. We both told our attending how terrible they were, poor visualization. One of our new attendings got one knotted in the arm and I had to spend thirty minutes getting it unknotted. So, hope the newer generation catheters are better. I liked the statement that if you can do brachial, which i'm very comfortable with, you can do radial. What exactly is the difference?? I never gave iv verapamil with brachial caths but have applied heat to a couple hands due to low flow years ago. perhaps verapamil would have been a better move for prophylaxis.
Mehrdad, as long as we can get the jist, don't worry too much about typo's or spelling. it's a blogg. communication and respect for each other's opinions are our main focus here.
melissa |
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August 30, 2008 03:30 (EDT)
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Does anyone use axillary rout for large sheats Does anyone use axillary route when 7 fr sheats are necessary ? I used a couple of times when I could not cannulate brachial, easier manipulation and access via axillary route. Larger vessel, less thrombosis risk. All literature about axillary route is from old times. Any opinions ? |
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August 30, 2008 07:32 (EDT)
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viva la difference Melissa,
In my mind, the main difference between radial and brachial is about 12 inches. I'm actually not joking. The artery is smaller and more prone to spasm, so I pre-treat with verapamil. There really is no difference in catheter manipulation. The benefit is hemostasis after the case. With brachial, as you know, thrombosis can be catastrophic, and bleeding is no fun either, especially if you get a hematoma up under the bicep that initially goes unnoticed. With radial, you remove the sheath and slide down what amounts to a plastic slip tie and viola, hemostasis. The key as mentioned earlier is access. It's smaller than brachial, so radial access kits are very helpful. Even if you do not do them routinely, you always need to have an alternate access option, and I would choose radial over brachial any day. |
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August 31, 2008 01:53 (EDT)
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good points thanks William , Fahim, everyone for your input. I have a feeling we will all continue to evolve our thinking over time.
melissa |
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August 31, 2008 09:48 (EDT)
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Right vs Left radial Totally agree with William. There is no difference in catheter manipulation between radial and brachial. That being said, if you choose a right radial (or brachial) as most do, catheter technique can be a little trickier and you have to deal with potential subclavian tortuosity, which is less of a problem from a left-sided approach.
To eliminate the problem of spasm, I routinely use long (25 cm) hydrophilic radial sheaths (which if you think about it, is like doing a brachial with a short sheath).
Melissa, you keep talking about 4 FR catheters. I don't know of too many people who use 4Fr catheters for diagnostic purposes from the radial approach. I routinely use 6Fr, even for diagnostics. |
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August 31, 2008 11:37 (EDT)
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cancel the CT!! Mehrdad,
The reason? there was so much talk about using them with radial approach in the early years. I'M glad to hear that you are using 6F because that makes your argument so much more credible. I will no longer recommend a head CT for you!! (kidding).
Melissa |
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August 31, 2008 02:56 (EDT)
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Which argument? Me argue? Nah ...
I thought that the 6Fr thing was a given? 6FR radial PTCA has been around for a long time (90's), so when exactly were the "early years" that you refer to? Melissa, when was your forum mug shot taken? You don't look that old... :-)
And which argument were you referring to? I've been arguing so much lately I can't keep track. We're you referring to Dr. Yang's comment about coronary visualization? I see now where that comment came from. |
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September 1, 2008 03:36 (EDT)
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young enough to be enthusiastic, old enough to be cautious Thanks Mehrdad,
that comment about my photo gets you an automatic agreement with every single post! (kidding of course!!!). I did 4F studies in 1989 to answer you querry.
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September 11, 2008 12:31 (EDT)
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