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Gamblers Anonymous: Help for those who make blanket statements on clopidogrel duration following DES

Mar 16, 2010 08:51 EDT


We need help controlling continuing behavior in spite of negative consequences

I've rarely left a more troubling trial than the presentation entitled "Extended Use of Dual Antiplatelet Therapy Not Effective." Since I'm no gambler, I've chosen to risk the small incidence of bleeding over catastrophic late stent thrombosis in my drug-eluting-stent (DES) patients, and I've extended my recommendation for clopidogrel therapy to an "indefinite time period" since shortly after their advent. I didn't come to that conclusion on a whim. Personally, I recall those frightening trials presented between 2005 through 2008 that dealt with the issue. I've sat beside and at the feet of Dr Renu Virmani, who actually alerted us to the problems with the entire DES platform when we were in the infancy of coating stents with antimitotic drugs. Although I could not locate the most concerning study, I recall one particular presentation in which the late stent thrombosis rate was 3.8% at four years with a >50% mortality. Studies that I could locate include the article on late stent thrombosis (JAMA 2005: 293:2126-2130), defined as occurrence of thrombosis later than 30 days; stent thrombosis yielded a 45% mortality. There are many other studies with both higher and lower late stent-thrombosis rates and higher and lower mortality rates reported. The concerning issue is that we have not reached any kind of consensus through adequately powered controlled randomized trials on the duration of clopidogrel therapy in the setting of DES utilization (see Circulation 2007: 115:1433-1439 and Anesthesia and Intensive Care 2007; 35:939-944). We have also refused to acknowledge that instruction for the utilization of clopidogrel cannot be a "one-size-fits-all" recommendation. Subsequently, stopping clopidogrel in DES patients is always somewhat of a gamble.

Problem gambling is a serious social problem and help is available

This study, presented by Dr Seung-Jung Park of Seoul, South Korea, randomized 2701 patients to either discontinuation or continuation of clopidogrel at 12 months following a DES implant. In the follow-up period of 19.2 months, there was a 1.8% incidence of the composite end point of cardiac death and heart attack in patients taking aspirin and clopidogrel vs 1.25% in the aspirin-only arm. An underpowered study with a short follow-up period and small sample size do nothing to reassure us that we are telling our patients that stopping clopidogrel is the right thing to do.

Problem gambling manifests itself in the form of various dysfunctional behaviors

Then there are the concerning issues of population variables such as genetics, lifestyle choices, and the effect of comorbidities that can have an impact on the risk of late stent thrombosis, not to mention lesion length and diameter. Throw into the mix the tawdry history of medical noncompliance of even a simple aspirin, and you have a recipe for disaster for many patients in both the DES and bare-metal populations. Heck, even with platelet-reactivity studies, we still can't come to a consensus about who needs what and for how long. In light of that issue, no one would argue that we would do any better by guessing.

Gambling addiction can cause disruption in every major area of life including psychological, physical, social, and vocational

For now, until I hear more reliable long-term data, I'm a "lifer" when it comes to clopidogrel use in DES patients--that is, until we have an adequate trial to suggest otherwise or until we have a better compound that will keep our patients safer. Of course, the patient's and the healthcare system's financial fitness determine duration of therapy more than any other issue in this current economic climate, and the occasional patient with big fat juicy vessels and few comorbidities stop their clopidogrel with a lot less protest from me than others, but I still document like crazy that I've presented the information that their outcome is "largely uncertain."

In the name of those patients who've gambled and lost, let's wait for a solid answer before we make broad sweeping recommendations on this issue.

Cognitive behavior therapy aims at replacing negative beliefs with healthy and positive ones.

If you or your patient need help, contact Gamblers Anonymous today.

See also: 

Optimal dual antiplatelet duration in REAL-LATE, ZEST-LATE: Too little, too soon 








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Gamblers Anonymous: Help for those who make blanket statements on clopidogrel duration following DES
# 1 of 4
March 18, 2010 12:44 (EDT)
annie ruppert
I agree that the longer pts left on plavix the better.  My concern is that we really don't have a standard practice for checking if pt's have therapeutic inhibition on plavix by testing P2Y12 assays and changing treatments accordingly.  Some of our MD's check this level, others do not.  I am surprised by the number of pts who don't have therapeutic inhibition levels inspite of being on plavix daily for months to years.  When levels are checked md's don't always institute the same treatment.  Some will increase the plavix dose to 150 mg a day, others will change the pt to prasugrel, some will load the pt with 60 mg others do not and just place pt on daily 10mg.  Once on prasugrel some MD's recheck the P2Y12 level others do not.  I think we should be checking P2Y12 levels on all pts on plavix and changing them to prasugrel if their inhibition is low.  Once on Prasugrel I think the level should be rechecked.  (we have had one pt whose inhibition was low even after being switched to Prasugrel, placed on Ticlid and level was good).  I think we should adopt a standard for all pts who have to take antiplatelet therapy.
# 2 of 4
March 18, 2010 01:57 (EDT)
alain efstratiou
Is Dr Vishnu Ramani the evil twin of Dr Renu Virmani? ( When Lou Dobbs starts certifying US physicians all these strange foreign names will have the fate of a Taxus stent on no antiplatelets).
# 3 of 4
March 19, 2010 07:42 (EDT)
richardebbey

Very useful and informative article!! I really liked it.Livea

# 4 of 4
March 19, 2010 11:34 (EDT)
Shelley Wood

Not sure what to make of the Lou Dobbs comment, but your hint about "Dr Vishnu Ramani" is well taken. This was a misprint in Melissa's blog and has been corrected to read Dr Renu Virmani. Thanks for pointing out the error,

Shelley Wood

Managing Editor, heartwire

 


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About Dr Melissa Walton-Shirley
Dr Walton-Shirley performs invasive cardiology, nuclear cardiology, and stress echocardiography in a private practice in Glasgow, KY.

Her chief medical interests are CHF/hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy and the promotion of primary PCI for acute MI. Recently she played a significant role in helping to launch an ambitious pilot study of primary PCI in Kentucky, the Kentucky Primary Angioplasty Pilot Project. She has also participated in the TIMI 19, Duke-HF, NRMI, and CRUSADE trials and is proud to have been an advocate of the first smoke-free initiative in Kentucky (2011). She champions a smoke-free America.

Dr Walton-Shirley received her undergraduate degree at the University of Kentucky and went to medical school and did her residency and fellowship at the University of Louisville. She is married with two daughters. Her interests include singing, writing poetry and songs, fitness, and, of course, theheart.org.