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All natural? $15 billion worth sold annually

Mar 27, 2012 00:36 EDT


I don't really get how anyone could feel more comfortable taking something that's not been studied formally, whose purity is not guaranteed, and whose components are not uniformly distributed from pill to pill. I'm phobic enough about medications in general that I don't even want to take those that have been studied extensively and whose side effects and interactions are widely known. Dr Rhonda Cooper-DeHoff, a Pharm-D at the University of Florida, stated that 100 million Americans now utilize alternative medications or supplements. Interestingly, users tend to be female, richer, more educated, and American Indian or white. And America's penchant for dosing ourselves with entities that have almost no evidence of benefit costs a hefty $15 billion each year. Alternative companies claim they can't afford to perform randomized controlled trials, yet their products account for 33% of the total out-of-pocket medical expense of Americans.

Patients utilize alternative meds for various reasons. In a 2006 survey, 66% of individuals indicated they used supplements to treat a specific health condition, 65% intended them to enhance overall wellness, and 42% aimed to prevent illness. Love them or hate them, supplements are here to stay . . . but Dr Cooper- DeHoff pointed out there have been significant shifts in trends. 
In 2002, echinacea reigned king, and ginseng, garlic, and St John's wort were exceedingly popular. Five years later, fish oil, of which there is at least some evidence of benefit, is now a dominant choice, followed closely by glucosamine and chondroitin. "Physicians are now recommending more physical activity, which means more joint pain," Dr Cooper- DeHoff reasoned. Echinacea is decreasing in popularity, flaxseed oil is emerging, and we now see very little St John's wort. Interestingly, Co-Q 10 is becoming a major player.

Dr Cooper-DeHoff pointed out that as Americans utilize green tea and caffeine for weight loss and as an energy source, they garner the side effects of anxiety and tachycardia. In my office setting, I see tons of folks every year who suffer from caffeine intolerance and although caffeine in normal amounts won't kill you, (unless you have a long QT), it can certainly make you think you're dying and generates scores of unnecessary office visits and testing. Energy drinks that are typically sugar laden can contain up to 360 mg caffeine, or the amount found in three to four cups coffee. This excessive amount of caffeine is a structural analog of adenosine that generates side effects of nausea, palpitations, protracted vomiting, rhythm issues, and seizures. Even more confounding is the fact that caffeine intoxication is not detected on blood screening.

Dr Cooper-DeHoff pointed out that side effects of other supplements could also be serious and even devastating. A brand known as Total Body has been associated with a 10 000-fold increase in selenium levels, producing significant liver toxicity, pulmonary edema, and even death. She then described a common issue with red-yeast rice, used as a condiment in Asia with the active ingredient shared by the cholesterol-lowering drug lovastatin called monacolin K. "The difficulty is the variability in concentration," she points out, "which varies lot to lot and bottle to bottle, and there are even significant variations from manufacturer to manufacturer." For instance, some brands suggest two capsules twice per day. "This means that if the patient switches brands, they could actively change their dose of lovastatin from 4 mg per day to up to 40 mg per day unknowingly," she warned. A most horrifying fact about red-yeast rice is that the supplements routinely contain arsenic and citrinin. Citrinin is a known nephrotoxin. With regard to arsenic, I found it interesting that the Dr Oz–generated warning about apple juice containing miniscule amounts of arsenic a few months back caused a full-fledged panic nationwide, yet the arsenic issue with red-yeast rice was no more than a blip on the screen.  "I note while walking up and down the aisles of places like Wal-Mart that the compounds or byproducts are not listed on the label," Dr Cooper-DeHoff pointed out. She then went on to add that even relatively safe entities like Co-Q 10 are not without problems. Advertised as a "miracle antioxidant" for hypertension, Alzheimer's, and statin-induced myopathy, few understand that Co-Q 10 is structurally similar to vitamin K and can decrease the INR in warfarin users, a result that can be devastating for patients with heart-valve problems, prior stroke, or atrial fibrillation.

Although we as practitioners may loathe supplements, it is our responsibility to be educated so that we can help our patients navigate their risks. The results of a 2006 AARP survey revealed that 77% of patients did not share their supplementation use with their doctors: 12% felt their healthcare providers would be dismissive or would tell them not to utilize them anymore; 30% didn't think it was important for their doctors to know what they were taking; but most damning for us as a profession is the fact that 50% of patients surveyed said their physicians never even asked if they were taking supplements.

Patients think that "natural is safe," said Dr Cooper-DeHoff when she rolled her next slide of devastating complications with supplement use. More adverse effects included heart-transplant rejection with St John's wort, seizures with ginkgo, rhabdomyolysis with Commiphora mukul, interactions of fish oil and gingko with warfarin, diabetes insipidus with Solanum indicum, and exacerbations of hemochromatosis with milk thistle. She cited both pharmacodynamic augmentation as well as impacts on the pharmacokinetic issues of absorption, distribution, metabolism, and elimination of several major drug groups with alternatives.

"Herbal supplements need to suggest some benefit or some efficacy in order to sell," said Dr Cooper-DeHoff, and sell they do, to a tune of 363 million annually in the weight-loss arena. In October of 2011, supplements by the names of Advanced Slim, Botanical Slimming, Magic Slim Tea, Pai You Guo, Slender Slim 11, A-slim, Lose Weight coffee, and p57 Hoodie were found to contain sibutramine, a compound pulled from the US market in 2010. Increases in BP, stroke, and heart attack were reported side effects. Many were obtained over the internet, so no one has any idea what else might be in them.

If energy and vitality or illness prevention won't sell, sexual enhancement always will. The FDA warned about 12 products containing sildenafil, including Magic Power Coffee, Man King, Via-Xtreme, Black Ant, Hard Ten Days, and Man Up, all of which actually contained compounds that could be fatal with the heart medications that contain nitroglycerin.

"Bath salts" are also not benign. The white-powder crystals contain elements of the khat plant or cathinones, a synthetic derivative that can increase HR and BP and cause sweating and agitation. Unfortunately, the symptoms can be confusing to practitioners. Like caffeine, cathinones will also not appear on a standard drug screen, so it's important to ask the patient or significant others about their supplementation histories.

Driving the point home about how prevalent alternative supplementation has become, Dr. Cooper-DeHoff snapped a picture with her cell phone of an innocent-appearing piece of chocolate placed on her pillow this week at the Hyatt McCormick. On the label was the wording "sleep" and "good night," which upon closer inspection contain valerian extract. "What if someone waited until in the morning to eat their chocolate? They would wonder why they were so sleepy all day," she quipped.

I tell my patients that anything that is processed isn't natural. Earthquakes, tornados, and appendicitis are all natural but aren't desirable. A pair of sneakers, the Mediterranean diet, and yoga are more effective and tons cheaper in the long run than anything the supplement industry offers. When it comes down to it, there is nothing natural about selling nature in a bottle, period.








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All natural? $15 billion worth sold annually
# 1 of 19
March 27, 2012 08:18 (EDT)
Dr. Disgruntled
Siburtamine was not "pulled" from the market; the company decided it wasn't profitable for them anymore; the FDA didn't "pull" it
# 2 of 19
March 27, 2012 08:24 (EDT)
Dr. Disgruntled

Where do most drugs come from? - natural products that get modified to get a patent; Deaner was a drug used many years ago for ADHD; it was an extract from sardines; the FDA wanted more studies so the company stopped making it; it is available OTC as Deanol

Peanuts can kill people; does that mean people shouldn't ingest this natural product ? just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it can't help treat a medical condition

# 3 of 19
March 27, 2012 09:53 (EDT)
James

St John's wart(sic)??

  "Physicians are now recommending more physical activity, which means more joint pain,"

Does she really know what she is talking about? Physical activity gives joint pain??

 "flax seed oil is emerging"   is emerging??? is being pushed by Big Food like Unilever in their margarines for their "health promoting" qualities.

 "Co-Q 10 is becoming a major player".. any idea why?? Could it have something to do with the fact that we have been recommending too many statin drugs? and denying the heart  muscle it's life support. Yes dear, I do recommend Co Enzyme Q10 for anyone who still thinks he needs to lower his/her cholesterol. I also tell them that according to the most recent findings distilled from the Framingham study that lowering cholesterol may not always be such a good idea. In fact it hardly ever is and never has been a good idea.

Where do these people like this lady crawl from under. Where have they been during the last decade where we had to revise most of what we accepted as solid scientific truth for so long 

# 4 of 19
March 27, 2012 10:21 (EDT)
Dr. Schoenberg

Wow, way to rip on a solid article that was accurate and concise regarding an extensive topic.

Show me those great CoQ 10 studies that prove it works.  I'll take Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database and their over 40,000 references stating it is "Possibly Ineffective" with a lone clinical study (Lee YJ, Cho WJ, Kim JK, Lee DC. Effects of coenzyme Q10 on arterial stiffness, metabolic parameters, and fatigue in obese subjects: a double-blind randomized controlled study. J Med Food 2011;14:386-90).

Every week in my HF clinic I have to battle with patients to stop wasting their money on dietary (remember, it's regulated as a food) supplements.  I've had patients stop all their cardiac meds and swear by $50 bottles of carrot seed as recommended by a friend of a friend of a friend to cure their disease.

Before you sing the praises of "natural" products, wait until your patient spends hundred on products like Strauss Heartdrops.  It's like a tincture from the old West with snake oil salesmen.  How do you know a natural product does what it claims?  When a pharmaceutical company takes the time to research and market it.

Dr. Walton-Shirley, when can YOU go on Dr. Oz and educate the public?  It's sad that apparently you have to educate some of our colleagues as well...

# 5 of 19
March 27, 2012 10:25 (EDT)
Smith
      Wonder why so many people have become so sceptical of mainstream medicine?  It's because of this kind of glibness that Dr. Hypenated is promoting in her column that ignores the reality that pharmaceutical drugs (warfarin, fosamax, vioxx, just to name a fewt promiscuous culprits) have been the cause of untold misery, lawsuits, etc, etc., while many individuals have benefitted immensely from health foods, health food store supplements, and avoiding prescription medication whenever and wherever possible.  Just one example:  Asprin--maligned by mainstream medicine--is much safer than warfarin to thin the blood without incurring sepsis.  Just remember, the battle is for the beliefs in people's minds.
# 6 of 19
March 27, 2012 10:38 (EDT)
James
Thanks for addressing the 'wart' problem.
# 7 of 19
March 27, 2012 10:49 (EDT)
Melissa

James, I think you misunderstood that Dr. Cooper-DeHoff was reading directly from trends in sales of those products. She can't help what's emerging and what's no longer popular. It is what it is. Stay tuned for more information.

Melissa

# 8 of 19
March 27, 2012 10:50 (EDT)
Dr. Schoenberg

How can you sing the praises of over-the-counter or natural products, but in the same breath denounce warfarin despite it coming from a natural source (and saving tens of thousands of lives annually)?  We find out safety issues with prescription medications because of after-market safety monitoring, which supplements do not have!

Aspirin is way safer than warfarin...and way less effective.  Show me the warfarin-induced sepsis studies please.  Those would be a treat!

Also Mr. Smith (since you clearly aren't a doctor), please refer me to your website so I can buy whatever product you're promoting to "Maintain cardiovascular health!"

# 9 of 19
March 27, 2012 10:58 (EDT)
Dr. Schoenberg

Thanks for addressing evidence-based medicine.

# 10 of 19
March 27, 2012 11:29 (EDT)
mgross
While there were certainly some appropriate comments in this article, the author's ignorance of nutrition and the impact of certain "supplements" was clearly distorted.  Flax oil is certainly not "emerging".  Indeed, the lack of Omega-3 benefit of the flax oil Omega-3 component, ALA, is now clearly evident to most informed practitioners as it is converted very inefficiently to the only Omega-3s which have significant clinical value, EPA and DHA.  Furthermore, the notion of fish oil causing bleeding or interacting with warfarin has been clearly disproven as long as the fish oil is not in an ethyl ester form containing d-alpha tocopherol Vitamin E.  I could list a number of other distortions, but the overall theme is that it does our profession no good when those of us who editorialize in this regard are just as ignorant as the folks we are targeting. 
# 11 of 19
March 27, 2012 11:38 (EDT)
Dr chris

I thought this was a brave and intereresting discussion article ..we do not know the true efficacy of natural renedies and i am delighted to see that finally the industry will move to regulate the prodcution and selling of vitamins and supplements .(well certainly in the UK) some if not consisrtent calibration is needed .

I think interactions are important to understand and questioning the broad spectrum of supplement control  should become an important part of of patient and practioner discussion .

 I think Dr disgruntled should take some st Johns wort for his mood !!!....does he own a healthstore ??

Thanks Mellisa for a thought provoking article !!

# 12 of 19
March 27, 2012 11:46 (EDT)
Dr. Schoenberg

What is so ignorant in her article?  The piece isn't about diet, and a reviewing a healthy diet is like beating a dead horse.  Patients look for shortcuts (i.e. supplements) to proper diet and exercise.

The "emerging" comment isn't about efficacy, it's about popularity!  The word 'popularity" is in that very sentence!

Thank you for educating everyone on fish oil and risk of bleeding, but again that's not what this article was about.  That was a snapshot example of the possible 1600 interactions with supplements and prescription medications.  Think your patients recommend to each other to avoid Vitamin E-containing fish oil?

Again, the article is a concise piece regarding a lengthy topic warning about the lack of safety and efficacy with the vast majority of dietary supplements.  If a natural product works (i.e. fish oil), the medical community takes notice.  So, please share all the wonderful supplements that have been proven to safely improve cardiovascular health that Dr. Walton-Shirley glossed over.

# 13 of 19
March 27, 2012 11:48 (EDT)
Dr. Schoenberg
Finally!  Someone who read the blog as it was intended!
# 14 of 19
March 27, 2012 12:54 (EDT)
James
Dr.Oz? hmm. For a moment I thought this was a serieus comment by just a misguided or ill-informed colleague until the end. Although selectively quoting does not really engender votes of confidence. My complete discontent with our profession is that it is not trustworthy anymore. I even quit using my own name and e-mail because of peer pressure. Had to use a friend's in Canada.  Iatrogenics should be a course of studies at every university.  It is a shame nothing has changed since John Tilden MD, first decided that medicine is often the cause of fatal outcomes. Intervention is still too often based on poor scientific research and too often only done by the pharmaceutical company that has an interest in a commercially advantageous outcome.
# 15 of 19
March 27, 2012 01:30 (EDT)
Show me the data

I commend Dr. Cooper-DeHoff for this excellent article.  I am a clnical pharmacist that sees red when I read ignorant comments such as those by Dr. Grunt!  Do a Co-Q search on the merits of the drug.  It's a placebo effect.  15 billion...really??? 33% out of pocket medical expenses for that garbage....and then complain about how expensive your pure, and proven drugs are.  Dr. Oz should have his license revoked.

# 16 of 19
March 27, 2012 07:20 (EDT)
Nancy

As a trained medical herbalist (4 years training with a doctor of neurosurgergy) I would like to share the work of Mr. Shawn Buckley regarding the regulation of natural products in Canada. The problem is not with the products but with those who dispense and advertise. 

IF THE NHP REGULATIONS ARE NOT REALLY MEANT TO PROTECT YOU, THEN WHO ARE THEY FOR?
NHPPA OPINION PIECE - MARCH 2012

This writing is an original information piece written by Shawn as a keynote series of concerns we should pass on in 2012. As ever, it is packed with facts, underpinning observations which are irrefutable.

"We are told that we need the NHP Regulations to protect us from such evils as adulterated products, fraudulent claims, and unsafe products. Despite these assertions, there has never been a death caused by a natural health product in all of our history. I have asked Health Canada under an Access to Information Act request to provide any evidence of death caused by a natural health product since Confederation (1867). I was given no evidence."

 

# 17 of 19
March 28, 2012 08:21 (EDT)
RCD
Dr. Walton-Shirley - thanks for helping share this message!
# 18 of 19
April 2, 2012 08:10 (EDT)
bahmi

Pure and proven drugs!!! Yeah, wow, proven always means great.  Remember that blessed FDA OK'd good ol' aspartame and look at the suppressed information about that. While you are hung up on "approved", how about sodium fluoride and its coterie of wonderful aspects?

Don't confuse capitalism with efficacy. And, if you get the time, read up on Dr. Morris Fishbein, just the salt of the eart. Read how, also, AMA trade unionism protects its own turf, etc.

 

I've always laughed at omniscients who give the old malarkey that "we are doctors, we are infallible". Look up the website dealing with Medical Quackery, all "approved". 

 

How many of you infallibles voted for ReichsFurhrer Obama?

# 19 of 19
April 2, 2012 10:13 (EDT)
Mike

Melissa beat me to it; the talk was describing what is happening today and how we got here, it was NOT promoting any one idea or product.  The talk had a fair balence between trends and concerns in contemporary practice. 

I think it is interesting to note that she gave this talk in a large room with people waiting outside (listening on a small speaker).  Why were people outside listening?  Because this was an excellent talk but much of it's quality seems to have been lost here (or some haven't caught on to what she was really saying).

Perhaps the viared response to her talk at ACC and this blog illustrate her point - there are a lot more opinions than hard data out there...

 

Mike


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About Dr Melissa Walton-Shirley
Dr Walton-Shirley performs invasive cardiology, nuclear cardiology, and stress echocardiography in a private practice in Glasgow, KY.

Her chief medical interests are CHF/hypertrophic obstructive cardiomyopathy and the promotion of primary PCI for acute MI. Recently she played a significant role in helping to launch an ambitious pilot study of primary PCI in Kentucky, the Kentucky Primary Angioplasty Pilot Project. She has also participated in the TIMI 19, Duke-HF, NRMI, and CRUSADE trials and is proud to have been an advocate of the first smoke-free initiative in Kentucky (2011). She champions a smoke-free America.

Dr Walton-Shirley received her undergraduate degree at the University of Kentucky and went to medical school and did her residency and fellowship at the University of Louisville. She is married with two daughters. Her interests include singing, writing poetry and songs, fitness, and, of course, theheart.org.